Wine glass competition

Salut/Hi Mike Tommasi,

le/on Sun, 15 Aug 2004 08:46:12 +0200, tu disais/you said:-

The difference only really exists in French Mike T (and IMO is largely exaggerated and pedantic). Decanting is a generic word in English IMO and can just as well be applied to wines needing oxygen as to wines needing to be separated from their deposit.

Let's face it, if you're "decanting" a wine, and it turns out not to have a deposit, then you pour the lot anyway. Equally, if you're aerating a wine and it turns out to HAVE a deposit you'd be pretty idiotic to continue pouring the sediment as well. So in practice there's virtually no difference.

To carry this suggestion on to a new level, what you are suggesting is that if Bill Spohn drives to a tasting in his Lamborghini, the he will have a different perception than if he drove his VW?

"st.helier" wrote in news:1092606574.111521@ftpsrv1:

no but his perception of the drive would be vastly different.

I have found that dress adds to the whole thing as well. It is hard to appreciate a fine meal wearing grubby clothes and needing a bath. Yes you will taste the food, but there is a nucace to the experience that will allude you (other thatn that the waiters will avoid you due to the smell)

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Thanks

Pete

So much for set; _setting_ makes an even bigger difference.

In ~1974 I went backpacking in the High Sierras with some friends. Unbeknownst to them I brought along a bottle of 1970 Beaulieu Cabernet Sauvignon, rolled in my sleeping bag. When we arrived at our destination, I buried the bottle in the mud at the edge of the lake. After a week of freeze-dried food (usually followed by a shot or two of Tanqueray and a cigar to keep the mosquitoes at bay), on the eve of our departure for civilization, I dug out the BV Cabernet. We shared it around in Sierra cups (a stainless steel backpackers' standard). It was **magnificent**! It couldn't have been any better - even served from Baccarat.

Tom S (who fantasizes about reliving that sort of adventure, but _may_ not actually do so...)

"jcoulter" wrote -

So, my perception of my favourite Palliser Sauvignon Blanc will differ according to whether I am wearing my dinner suit, to wearing my swimmers :-)))

Perhaps I should have said "My perception will differ according to whether I was wearing my dinner suit or birthday suit!!!!" :-)))

Hi Ian

I would have said that the ambiguity only exists in English ;-)

Fine, but again I would say that 90% of the time I "decant" wine in order to let it breathe.

Mike

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France email link

When you say rinse, do you mean with water? Or a little bit of extra (of the same) wine reserved for that purpose? Do you decant into another bottle, cleaned out for the purpose (a 'decanting bottle' if you will)?

Peter

Yes.

No.

Yes.

M.

Salut/Hi Mike Tommasi,

le/on Mon, 16 Aug 2004 20:34:52 +0200, tu disais/you said:-

Chuckle. But in fact, as the "two" processes are really only one and the same, albeit for different purposes, it seems a touch superfluous to insist (as do many of our frbv friends) on an observation of the right word.

Agreed. And I'd say that with the possible exception of Bill, that's true for us all.

Where I get worried is when someone asks "Do most wines benefit from being decanted?" and they get the answer "no", which often is not qualified by the rider "but they do benefit from being carafed". So you get a pedantic interpretation of a word that leads to bad advice - or rather a lack of good advice. That's really why I prefer to use the one word, which allows me to give more helpful advice.

Agreed, and the word "carafed" seems to solve the problem, it is a more versatile word, and one can safely say that most wines benefit from being carafed, usually for breathing, sometimes also for deposits...

Let's drop the word decanting altogether... :-)

Mike

Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France email link

Indeed - the only decant thing to do.....

Sounds good! So, anyone recommend a good carafeder for under $50? :-)

Ian I think you've hit upon something here. However I wish we could find a different spelling. I keep reading it as "cara" "fed"

Myron

There's a readily available one. When the emphasis in a word like carafe is on the second syllable, the "f" is doubled. Hence "caraffed". As in "preferred" and as opposed to "offered".

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Hi all; I may be a little dense but, I really can't see the net gain by substituting carafed for decanted. If it ain't broke.......