pressure release bottle cap


Hi,
I would like to be able to bottle fermented beverages in screw cap soda bottles (reusing them after I drink the soda), and I'm looking for or will try to invent a screw cap with a pressure release valve. If such a thing exists I'd be interested in hearing about it. Otherwise I am thinking about something along the lines of inserting a false bottom in a bottle cap and putting a spring behind it so that when the cap is screwed closed, the spring will keep air out but if the pressure of the carbonation gets high enough, the pressure will push back the false bottom compressing the spring and allowing gas to escape before the bottle bursts.
Does anyone know if something like this exists or have any ideas on how to make one etc.
(I have a couple of fizz keepers (a piston type and a bulb type) does anyone know if these will release excess pressure?)
Thanks
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s9man3

Why go through the trouble? A rubber balloon or a piece of Saran wrap & a rubber band are all that's needed. Easy, inexpensive and readily available. Sanitation is simple too: replace when dirty.
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Mike MTM, Cokesbury, New Jersey, USA
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Mike MTM

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they have them there all the time, I know nothing about them. > Hi, > > I would like to be able to bottle fermented beverages in screw cap soda > bottles (reusing them after I drink the soda), and I'm looking for or will > try to invent a screw cap with a pressure release valve. If such a thing > exists I'd be interested in hearing about it. Otherwise I am thinking about > something along the lines of inserting a false bottom in a bottle cap and > putting a spring behind it so that when the cap is screwed closed, the > spring will keep air out but if the pressure of the carbonation gets high > enough, the pressure will push back the false bottom compressing the spring > and allowing gas to escape before the bottle bursts. > > Does anyone know if something like this exists or have any ideas on how to > make one etc. > > (I have a couple of fizz keepers (a piston type and a bulb type) does anyone > know if these will release excess pressure?) > > > Thanks > > > > > >
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Mike Clark
> Hi, > > I would like to be able to bottle fermented beverages in screw cap soda > bottles (reusing them after I drink the soda), and I'm looking for or will > try to invent a screw cap with a pressure release valve. If such a thing > exists I'd be interested in hearing about it. Otherwise I am thinking about > something along the lines of inserting a false bottom in a bottle cap and > putting a spring behind it so that when the cap is screwed closed, the > spring will keep air out but if the pressure of the carbonation gets high > enough, the pressure will push back the false bottom compressing the spring > and allowing gas to escape before the bottle bursts. > > Does anyone know if something like this exists or have any ideas on how to > make one etc. > > (I have a couple of fizz keepers (a piston type and a bulb type) does anyone > know if these will release excess pressure?) > > > Thanks > THis whole thing is nuts. Bottle whatever you want to bottle when it has stopped fermenting and become sugar free, by adding one cup sugar to a five gallon (19litre) batch and that should do it. WARNING: Soda bottles aren't really right for high pressure beverages like real wines etc. They tend to explode. IOW, you have a horrible idea. UNLESS!, you are going to use plastic!
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Bob
> UNLESS!, you are going to use > plastic!
Another word of warning - don't do this either! Yeah, they hold pressure better than glass, but only so far. And when they pop, you'll wake the neighbors - in the next county. I know of two instances (one last year in Richmond Virginia, and once in my college days) where some "troubled youths" placed a small amount of dry ice in a 2-liter bottle, capped it and set it somewhere. About 10 minutes later (just enough time for the "youths" to be elsewhere) the pressure overcame the bottles, and boom. Sure, it would take more than 10 minutes for the pressure to build up from wine-making, but I wouldn't want to clean it up later...
Even if it did work, opening the bottle would release the carbonization from the wine, and you'd have a bottle of foam, most of which would be dripping from your hand and the outside of the bottle.
Rob
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Rob
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:15:08 -0500, "Bob" said in alt.beer.home-brewing: > THis whole thing is nuts. Bottle whatever you want to bottle when it has >stopped fermenting and become sugar free, by adding one cup sugar to a five >gallon (19litre) batch and that should do it. WARNING: Soda bottles aren't >really right for high pressure beverages like real wines etc. They tend to >explode. IOW, you have a horrible idea. UNLESS!, you are going to use >plastic!
Soda is carbonated at 3 volumes - a little higher pressure than we use for beer - so there shouldn't be any problem using plastic soda bottles. In fact, when I first started brewing that's what I used - 16 or 20 ounce bottles at first, then 2 liter bottles. I never had one explode. (Of course I never bottled beer that hadn't finished fermenting.)
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Al Klein
no idea the suggestion of yours a soda (coke bottle) is holding 35 psi beer bottle holds up to 80 something psi champagne bottle will hold about 200 psi i do a bit of scientific development but saving a 5 or 10 cent bottle from a full flown idiot, packing green beer, is not the highlight to my life. at least i hope not. Every buddy got a shortcut, they figure they can do, and has never been done before. the www is a highly competative site so make sure you have your copyrigights, fully setup. personally saving a 10 cent bottle from an idiot is not a big thing, especially when they will likely drop it. good luck on your endevour. > Hi, > > I would like to be able to bottle fermented beverages in screw cap soda > bottles (reusing them after I drink the soda), and I'm looking for or will > try to invent a screw cap with a pressure release valve. If such a thing > exists I'd be interested in hearing about it. Otherwise I am thinking > about > something along the lines of inserting a false bottom in a bottle cap and > putting a spring behind it so that when the cap is screwed closed, the > spring will keep air out but if the pressure of the carbonation gets high > enough, the pressure will push back the false bottom compressing the > spring > and allowing gas to escape before the bottle bursts. > > Does anyone know if something like this exists or have any ideas on how to > make one etc. > > (I have a couple of fizz keepers (a piston type and a bulb type) does > anyone > know if these will release excess pressure?) > > > Thanks > > > > > >
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dug88
Wow all that & brewing to. My penny worth: rethink your principle objective & stick to the knitting, which in this case (I think) is making damned good beer. The methods that most of us use give excellent control of secondary bottle fermentation without excess gas or the need for pressure relief. Best regards & Good Luck, Pete > Hi, > > I would like to be able to bottle fermented beverages in screw cap soda > bottles (reusing them after I drink the soda), and I'm looking for or will > try to invent a screw cap with a pressure release valve. If such a thing > exists I'd be interested in hearing about it. Otherwise I am thinking > about > something along the lines of inserting a false bottom in a bottle cap and > putting a spring behind it so that when the cap is screwed closed, the > spring will keep air out but if the pressure of the carbonation gets high > enough, the pressure will push back the false bottom compressing the > spring > and allowing gas to escape before the bottle bursts. > > Does anyone know if something like this exists or have any ideas on how to > make one etc. > > (I have a couple of fizz keepers (a piston type and a bulb type) does > anyone > know if these will release excess pressure?) > > > Thanks > > > > > >
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peterlonz

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