Check with your local fancy restaurant & ask them to save you the empty's. They will be glad to get rid of them, be sure to give them a couple bottles of your best home made for doing this. Be sure to pick them up on a regular basis as they don't wan them laying around. I don't like the larger bottles but take them all & toss the ones I don't like. You'll get more bottles than you will ever need, all for free!! Al
--> as a newbee winemaker this year, i was needeing to find bottles