Secrets of the Vine

Aug 23, 2004 3 Replies

G'day



I'd like to ask your "I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful."



The original passage is written in old Greek. Ironically, the Greek word for "cut off" can also mean "lift up". Mr Wilkonson claims that most English translations of the text incorrectly translates this word as "cut off" but that in reality it should be translated as "lift up". This is his rationale:



An American winegrower told him that when a branch does not bear fruit (grapes) it is often because it fell off the frame or wire. This branch gets less sun and gathers more dust. The winegrower then "lifts up" the branch, ties it back to the frame or wire, and cleans the leaves of the dust. He does not cut it off. Mr Wilkenson believes that Jesus' statement referred to this action of lifting and cleaning, and not to the act of cutting off.



What are your comments on this? Do you (or winegrowers in your area) cut off branches that don't bear fruit? Is the lifting a common practice? How often is not bearing fruit the result of a fallen branch? Is such lifting also practiced (or relevant) to non-trellissed vineyards? Does anyone know when the trellissing of vines was first invented or practice and whether it could probably have been common practice in the Middle-East or old Europe two thousand years ago?



Any other comments appreciated. Also, if you're willing, please tell me your location.



Thanks in advance. Samuel Murray Johannesburg, South Africa


The fruit for next year is in THIS years wood. What happens this year in large part determines the fruit set for next year.

How does this winegrower you are talking about explain the bountiful fruit production in trellising systems such as the GDC or Scott Henry in which either all or half of the shoots are trained to grow DOWN and even touch the ground?

On the other hand, not all shoots are productive. In some varieties, shoots growing from the basal buds are not productive. Sometimes shoots that are extremely shaded (this year) will not mature the buds that will produce NEXT yers fruit.

This can be done, especially if you the non productive shoots are shading the fruit and buds on productive shoots and the non productive shoot(s) are not needed for spurs for next years production.

Probably not at all the reason for lack of fruit. Some varieties like to grow down or both up and down.

Trellising of vines goes back to the very beginning of growing vines.

Brunswick, Maryland - USA

I think you are refering to John 15:1-2. If you read on to verse 6, you will see that these pruned branches are cast into a fire. Kind of hard to burn a branch if it is still on the vine.

I haven't seen the entire Secrets of the Vine video series, but I suspect Mr Wilkenson will have some or other smart answer to that one. Mr Wilkenson is known for his surprise-theology. I'm careful not to jump the gun lest he has a clever trump up his sleeve.

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