Warning: Long newbie post

Hello group,

I am a total newbie to making wine and growing grapes. And I'm looking for any advice you can give me. I have about forty acres in North East Texas near Commerce. (Elevation is about 655 ft and there are approx 2300 GDD.) It has good, well drained soil and I want to try growing wine grapes. For the last couple weeks I've been researching via the internet. The best websites I've found so far are:

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Any other websites on grape growing would be helpful. Are there any grape growing discussion group forums?

I plan on trying to grow about 1 acre of grapes from cuttings. I want to grow classic vinifera such as cabernet sauvignon and chardonnay. The only source I've found so far for cuttings is Double A Vineyards in New York. Are there better sources? Is it crucial to get certified cuttings from the region I'll be growing? Or would I be better off getting vines grafted to a specific rootstock?

I want to begin construction soon and I'm not real sure about the best way to go about getting prepared. Do I need to construct the entire training & irrigation system before I plant? How many varieties should I start out with? Should the different varieties be spaced further apart or does it make any difference? Can I use one training system for all varieties?

The only book I've purchased so far is called "First Steps in Winemaking" by C.J.J. Berry, and it is not a very good book. I want to buy "From Vines To Wines", but I'm not sure if this is what I'm looking for either. Any recommendations, specifically about growing wine grapes?

Also, I was wondering about how to tell when you have a good grape crop. Are there tests or do you have to develop a taste for the grapes over years of experience? I plan to visit area vineyards and ask questions there also, I'm just afraid I'm too late. I'll appreciate any information. I just don't want to waste a lot of time and money, so I'm trying to find as many information sources as possible so I can grow the best possible grape. Thanks in advance.

Troy Hart

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Troy
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I planted 50 vines, 10 each of 5 Red French Hybrids. All came up beautifully. I also planted 21 blueberry bushes, 20 of 21 great, 21st was struggling, but surviving.

I was very impressed with the packaging, the shipping at planting time and the healthiness of the plants.

Don't discount them as a possible source for your vines.

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Michael

You don't need "advice" from this group. What you need is to get a good book on grape growing and and *study* it!

Get in touch with your County Agent for additional information. And go visit the commercial grape growers in your part of Texas for help, based on their experience.

vince norris

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vincent p. norris

Dr Roy Renfro at Grayson college is very knowledgeable and familiar with the Munson collection. Email him at snipped-for-privacy@grayson.edu

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Rex Franklin

Troy, DITTO Rex's post. Roy is the keeper of Munson Hybrids. You said you wanted to plant only vinifera but I would really consider a row of Delicatessen grapes ( a Munson Hybrid). We had a Delicatessen wine entered in this years Wine Classic contest and it was GREAT.

If you decide on grafted vinifera vines you might try the following; Kendall Jackson Nursery, Madera, California contact Ernie Bowman snipped-for-privacy@KJMAIL.COm Ernie is the manager and is very helpful. I live in the KC area and Ernie helped select clone of C. Sauvignon that have a good chance of living and producing ripe fruit here.

Vintage Nurseries LLC P.O. Box 279

27920 McCombs Avenue Wasco, CA 93280
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William Frazier

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