Guinness NON Believer Event Report

Jan 18, 2007 8 Replies

Went to the Guinness Believer Event at the Sony Music Studios on 53rd St. in New York tonight, but they over-booked the venue. I was on line for about 45 minutes in the frigid cold, they moved some people to the head of the line, then closed the doors in front of me. Can't believe I thought this might be an interesting event, sure wasn't free, they were collecting a mandatory donation at the door (if you could get in). I know seating wasn't guaranteed, but for some reason it wasn't fairly obvious to these marketing and demographic wizards that people with real jobs can't stick around the city after 8 p.m., and can't keep coming back each night with the hope that maybe they won’t push us to the back of the line again and close the door in our faces. Airlines do that because they're dishonest and don't care what their customers think. Guinness appears to do it because they don't know any better, and don’t care what their customers think.



One of the organizers was telling someone outside (loud enough for everyone to hear) that there was no "vip" access, since everyone had printed their "vip" passes to get in, then she offered those of us who were left to be put on the "vip" list. Wow that's special. Try that routine at the pubs downtown and see what kind of reaction you get there.


I'm confused here. How can they overbook a venue if you don't pay for the entrance in advance. You decided to stand in line for 45 minutes in sub-freezing weather on the chance you might get in.

If you didn't think this was an interesting event then why did you stand in line for 45 minues in sub-freezing temperatures. And why didn't you get there sooner for a free event.

I have to ask why someone would stand line under those conditions for such an event. Go find a pub and drink a beer under warmer circumstances....

What specifically do airlines do that is dishonest.

Ah, yes a for-profit company does not care what it's customers think. Makes no sense to me....

If anyone can print a VIP pass then everyone is a VIP and consequently nobody is a VIP.

They took r.s.v.p.'s, so they knew exactly how many people to expect. They've done many of these events, so by now they should be able to make a pretty accurate guess of how many guests to expect. That's probably not an issue in Virginia, but it's a little more important in New York City, where people place a little more importance on the value of their time.

Unlike the organizers, I had no idea what to expect. If they had held the event closer to the financial district I would have expected them to be extremely popular. It was in a part of the city that's not that easy to get to, and you could easily spend 45 minutes walking to and from the event from public transportation. Granted, that's not real important in Arlington, Virginia, where you drive everywhere, and don't have to coordinate your activities with a long commute using public transportation. But then you can easily find convenience stores that sell american cheese sandwiches on white bread (with butter) and I can't.

Somehow I think that's significant, but I can't quite put my finger on why right now.

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Exactly. I was in the city later than usual that Friday (but not for this event) and decided to try it one more time. It was a good thing I was way early (though not intentionally), since the organizers assistants (more than one this time) who were registering everyone on line with portable scanners didn't know anything about a "VIP list," and had no record of my name (the one assistant who was there Wednesday only had a printed list of names of the pre-registered guests). Not only did Guinness irritate people on the first day of the event, they lied to them to get them out of their faces. It's a real low-class way of dealing with people.

Wow. What a shock. But please tell us, what is the RIGHT religion for someone to host an event like this?

If New Yorkers are so cognizant of the value of their time why in the world would they go out of their way to stand in line in freezing temperatures for the chance to get some free beer and munchies. I've been in the city many times for business and pleasure and finding some cheapo event like that would rank below buying a hot dog from a street vendor. Certainly there has to be something more interesting than standing in line to attend some public relations and advertising event put on by a beer distributor. Your time could be better spent closing up Zabars!

idea what to expect. If they had held the event

When I look for food in New York it isn't cheese and butter sandwiches at some P.R. event staged by a beer distributor. Your taste in food is...er...surprising to say the least. I can think of plenty of places for a quick bite

If it took you 90 minutes to get to that free beer event and back I would say you have a lot of extra time on your hands. Even 45 minutes for a few sips of free beer would be a total waste of time. Or you must be looking for something - anything to do with your free time. In that case I would suggest that you spend your 45 minues in the public library or in one of the many fine museums in that city.

Well, I'm still at a loss as to why you would be looking for cheese and butter sandwiches in NYC, but to each his own I guess.

not for this event)

All of that for free beer? For the time and money spent even if you had been successful you would have beeen far better off to find a pub and just suck down a few brews.

Why would anyone stand in line for an advertising and public relations event for a beer distributor. What other exciting things do you line up for? The latest release of Windows; The newest game box; The reopening of the local groccery store? Early opening of department stores during christmas?

Hey, the only think close to a religious affiliation I'm interested in from a bartender is to respect the Saint, King Gambrinus.

In the article I linked to, the author objected to getting a non-Irish bartender who was a "...paid Jewish actor who does not drink."

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idea what to expect.

I haven't touched an "american cheese on whitebread" sandwich in at least 50 years, and don't intend to ever again, but I naturally assumed that that's a regular item at most Virginia convenience stores. Aren't you posting from your workstation at Resolution Trust Corp., in Arlington, Virginia? Or are you just hacking into the FDIC's private network? Does Resolution Trust approve of your posting in usenet newsgroups when you're supposed to be working?

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