Samuel Smith Pubs in the UK

Two that I know are the Spread Eagle in Lymm Cheshire & the Vine Inn in Dunham Massey near Altringham.

The two closest to me are the Old Hall in Heckmondwike (listed), and the Bath Hotel in Dewsbury. The Angel in Leeds centre is also a Sam Smith's house.

The Three Goats Heads is in Oxford, not a bad pub but no cask beer so I rarely visit it:

Best regards, Paul

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Few around here that spring to mind

Moorcock Inn, Norland , Sowerby Bridge HX6 3RP

Shoulder of Mutton, 28 Kirkgate, Bradford BD1 1QL

Sinclairs Oyster Bar, 2 Cathedral Gates, Manchester, M3 1SW >

The only (afair) Sam's pub around here is The Lion of Vienna on Chorley New Road, Bolton. Named after Nat Lofthouse, Chairman of Bolton Wanderers FC who was thus nicknamed by the press after a famous England win in in 1952 in er... Vienna. When opened in

1984, it was claimed to be the furthest west SS pub in the UK.

JD

Dave,

What've you been drinking ??? Of course, the Spread is a Lees pub !

You can add

Golden Lion and Bellemonte in Frodsham, Cheshire

Cheers

Mark

I'm sure it wasn't, as they already owned the Golden Lion and the Bellemonte in Frodsham as mentioned by Mark Enderby.

They also own the Falcon and Ye Olde Boot in Chester, but may have acquired these after 1984.

Another north-west one not already mentioned is the Windmill at Carrington.

Stockport has the Queen's Head (Turner's Vaults) and the Boar's Head, and not far away is the Sun in September in Burnage.

Does the OP have his provisional list so we can see which are missing?

As far as I know there is only one Sam Smiths pub in Salford - the Albert Edward in Eccles. Some pix at

Alistair Cross7/3/06 11:44 AM

Alistair, There's nothing really secretive about who owns which UK brewery chain-owned public houses.

IIRC, they have over 1,000 pubs in the UK - which means you must already have about 950 of them on your list so far... !!

Try the following multi-page link for Sam Smith's pubs...

As for their banning all music; live and recorded and jukeboxes, karaoke and TV video etc... The reason was extra licensing and increased PPL/PRS charges/costs at a time when profits are down and overheads increased - (not anything to do with consumer choice initially).

It was a bit contentious a year or two ago. That bit was secretive and the brewery ignored all appeals to reconsider aspects of it for live music. As a business, they pissed off a lot of people in live music circles by doing so, who swore they'd never cross their thresholds again.

Many music clubs and regular sessions for folk, rock, blues, jazz, klezmer, bluegrass, and country music (many going for 30+ years in the same locations) had to find new homes - and some didn't find homes or survive the move.

Not sure most people see it that way. I personally don't like piped and recorded music, although I love to see people - especially amateurs using the pub to put on a unamplified live music session or in the right place - an amplified gig. We all have our likes and dislikes.

I'd be interested to know to what degree their business suffered after the initial cost-savings (equipt/upkeep/licenses) are taken into account. They may have to rethink that policy now the smoking ban is also coming in to reduce profits by an estimated average 8%.

CR

John Devine7/3/06 5:35 PM

There seem to be very many Sam Smiths outlets around which are not heavily branded as such. According to East Lancs CAMRA, Samuel Smith currently own four pubs in East Lancs, these being the Greyhound in Accrington, the Petre Arms at Langho, the Old Red Lion in Colne and the Tim Bobbin in Burnley, all of which sell the company's Old Brewery Bitter - abv 4.0 %.

According to the blurb... Samuel Smith's Old Brewery in Tadcaster is Yorkshire's oldest brewery which dates from 1758. Cask conditioned Old Brewery Bitter is brewed with well water without the use of brewing aids or adjuncts and fermented in traditional Yorkshire squares. All Real Ale is supplied in wooden casks still made and repaired by the brewery's own cooper.

CR

Nearer 200 I think you'll find. There is a couple of dozen in my Branch area, all ex Rochdale and Manor Brewery pubs that Sams took over.

Peter

Add the Windmill at Carrington and Railway Tavern at Flixton (both to the south west of Manchester).

You might find it quicker to search for Sam's on the Beerintheevening website: .

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Peter Alexander7/3/06 11:10 PM

You may well be right. CAMRA data usually says 200. When they were in the news 18 months ago, I read in a newspaper report that they had over

1,000. So is this 200 S/S branded pubs; or 200 pubs with S/S real ale...? strange because there's a hell of a difference between 200 and 1K.

CR

On Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:58:07 +0000, Chris Rockcliffe wrote (in message ):

Doesn't the Lyceum on the Strand have a TV? It certainly used to.

Although I dislike TVs in pubs it does annoy me that these companies make out they're making a stand against noise pollution when in fact, as you point out, they're just saving money on licenses and equipment. Plus, if they really are making a stand against noise pollution why don't they get rid of clattering, flashing slot-machines?

Plough Whitby Jolly Sailors Whitby Blue Bell Hull White Horse, Beverley (Nellie's)

Another one from Gloucestershire:

Mill Inn Withington Gloucestershire GL54 4BE

Tel: 01242 890204

Cheers, Graham.

Glittering Star, Darlington

Glittering Star 9 Stonebridge Darlington Durham DL1 1PB 01325353191 according to a google search.

Greyhound, Saxton Greyhound Inn, Saxton, LS24 9PY

And The Golden Cross, Southgate Street, Gloucester.

No real ale, but the place is due for renovation and I understand that the local CAMRA branch will be pressing for some.

Roy.

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