I had Okocim Porter last night!

My understanding is that it is no longer brewed.

If I hear more, I'll post.

Thanks - I'll pass that on to the (half- Polish) guy who gave me the original information.

Mike Roebuck a écrit :

It is, but only por los yanquis, or at least for export. :o(((

AFAIK, it's not available in Poland any more. (And a big round of applause for those sad b*stards at Carlsberg International, please...)

I'm due to visit the Okocim Brewery some time in the Autumn, I'll enquire further.

Looks like the "optimisation" of breweries' beers portfolios in Poland is turning out to be pretty lethal for polish porters...

Last June, as I went hunting for "Piwo Porter" across Warsaw, I had to ask at a dozen offies and delis to finally find two that stocked Ciechanow (33cl bottles) and/or Lodzkie (50cl cans, ouch), one of them about 100m north of the Constitution Square. And then I came across Zywiec Porter (33cl bottles) at a petrol station somewhere along the way to the Warsaw Uprising Museum. That place had the best range of beer I'd seen in four days in Warsaw... Turned out the entrance to Browar Warschawskie (ie. the "Krolewskie" plant) is nearby... but said petrol station didn't stock any !

Cheers !

Laurent

Hello baltic-porter fans!

Okocim is brewing their Porter again, ufortunately only for export (it's not available in Poland) :/

Laurent, Browary Warszawskie no longer exist as well as their essentional Porter (i still have some bottles in my cellar). All thanks to Heineken/BBAG.

Another thing is that Zywiec Porter is not brewed in Zywiec anymore but in Cieszyn under the same name (they also brew a nice regional lager - Brackie).

A list of porters in Poland to look for is:

Krajan - Porter Ciechanow - Porter Staropolskie - Porter BOSS - Porter

all above approx 18 BLG

(Cieszyn) - Zywiec Porter Lodzkie - Porter Strzelec/Brok, Porter

all above approx 22 BLG

And also Okocim Porter, that Carlsberg decided to keep away from Polish porter drinkers :/

BTW, if someone travelling to Poland will need some info on Polish beer

- please let me know, I'll try to help.

cheers!

art [at] browar.biz

I live in Greenpoint, Brooklyn which has a large Polish community. I see the Zywiec Porter and Boss Porter (called Black Boss) all over the place here, in little bodega grocery stores, though never in bars. A few years back, in addition to the Okocim Porter (which I still haven't seen return here in NY) there was also Dojlidy Porter, which I also remember as being quite good. Is that also no longer being made?

Bill Coleman

I'm sorry Bill, Dojlidy was one of my favorite porters, but it's no longer brewed for over 18 months or so :( When SABMiller (Kompania Piowarska) took over the brewery in Bialystok (Dojlidy) they threw out all brands from the Dojlidy portfolio leaving only Zubr (a lager without much character) and for some time a cheap brand for a discount market.

The list of porters i mentioned earlier is a complete one (sigh). at least for now.

Cheers!

art [at] browar.biz

I'm very sorry to hear that. Well, I'll keep looking around for some old bottles. In my experience this stuff ages very well! I once had a bottle of Okocim porter that was at least 20 years old and it was great...

Bill

that's true. year after year a baltic porter gets better and better. its strenght and body lets it age well.

I still have a bottle of a superb Polish porter from Wroclaw - Piast Porter (the botlle is over 5 or 6 yrs old now). In my cellar is also to find some porters from Warsaw, Bia³ystok and the original porter from the ¯ywiec brewery as well as some of the more fresh ones brewed in Poland.

cheers!

art [at] browar.biz

ART a écrit :

That's a crying shame. :o(( Back in 2000, I had both Dojlidy Porter and Magnat, and enjoyed both very much. The Porter had a very nice maple/walnut edge in its chocolaty maltiness, and that really made it a unique beer !

ART a écrit :

All right, thanks for the info. :o(( The site is still obviously used as a distribution depot, though...

Cheers !

Laurent

DAMMIT! Thanks for the news, ART, it's bad news, but it confirms our suspicions.

I haven't found their Porter, but I've seen bottles of the Dojily Magnat around the corner from my house. I'll have to check it out.

Bill