re: brewing software - another question


Hi
Reading Bill Velek's post on brewing software has prompted me to ask a question that, admittedly, crops up regularly in the homebrew NGs but hasn't been mentioned for a while.
What on earth has happened to Promash - anybody know a definitive answer? Every so often, people state that a new update is imminent, but nothing happens. It hasn't been updated since August 2003. Is there going to be an update at some point or has it been abandoned. Anybody know anything definite?
Or perhaps it is just so good it doesn't need updating.
Just joking 8^)
Regards KGB
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KGB
Good luck getting an answer from Promash. They don't answer their phone OR their emails. > Hi > > Reading Bill Velek's post on brewing software has prompted me to ask a > question that, admittedly, crops up regularly in the homebrew NGs but > hasn't been mentioned for a while. > > What on earth has happened to Promash - anybody know a definitive > answer? Every so often, people state that a new update is imminent, > but nothing happens. It hasn't been updated since August 2003. Is > there going to be an update at some point or has it been abandoned. > Anybody know anything definite? > > Or perhaps it is just so good it doesn't need updating. > > Just joking 8^) > > Regards > KGB >
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Brian Bartz
> Good luck getting an answer from Promash. They don't answer their phone OR > their emails. Here is an update that Jeff Donovan posted about a week ago on the ProMash site: > 11/12/07 at 03:09 PM Reply #2 > I've thought long and hard about the appropriate answer to this question, and because I >like to keep my wife's personal life off of any forum I have since not mentioned much here >but I suppose I do owe some folks an explanation of what is happening. > > In Oct 2006 my wife was diagnosed with a large, late Stage 4 gleo-blastomic brain tumor with >ganglion tendecies (I hope I spelled that all correctly). It is in-operable unless she wants >to give up the small things like seeing, walking, things like that. In the course of the last >year we have been to several universities and specialists. She started intense radiation and >chemo therapy regime's the first of this year and just ended the last chemo treatment (for now) >last month. Not asking for any tears, she is very strong and has a great sense of humor and >I have every confidence she will get through this....however, thats the story. > > Needless to say, my life has been consumed with making sure she gets the best treatment >available, deal with all the administrative bullshit from insurance companies, hosiptals and >universties so she can focus on just getting well. Also trying to maintain the day gig(s) to >pay for it all has proved quite a challenge.....even though we pay a small fortune in health >insurance, there is still a lot that falls through the cracks of which it is the individuals >reposibility for financially. > > So, when will ProMash 2.0 be released? I honestly cannot say at this point. Even though the >majority of it is finished, it still needs quite a bit of coding to bring it to completion. >This is something I most DEFINITELY intend to do. However, I simply cannot at this point in time give a hard date for release as I would be unsure I could hold to any date as life around >here is a day to day thing at the present. I have been trying to maintain support for both the >users and the retailers to the best of my ability and for the last year that's been about as >much as I can do so, hopefully that will be changing soon. > > I'm sorry I cannot provide more details on a release date, I hope everyone understands I do >still intend to release 2.0, I just cannot promise when right now. > > - Jeff
Wayne Bugeater Brewing Company
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Wayne

I'm coming in late on the thread... and, I'm a hack brewer. If someone came up with a standalone version of the HBD Recipator, I'd be happy as a lark.
Ed
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Ed Edelenbos
>> Good luck getting an answer from Promash. They don't answer their phone OR >> their emails. > >Here is an update that Jeff Donovan posted about a week ago on the >ProMash site:
Hi
Well, that is my question answered - in a way I am now sorry I asked; the guy has my deepest sympathies, I sincerely hope his wife gets better soon.
I checked the Promash site for any upgrade info a week or so ago, obviously I just missed his post. In the (sad) circumstances, I'll just grit my teeth and wait - Jeff has far more important matters to think about right now.
Regards
KGB
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KGB
>I'm coming in late on the thread... and, I'm a hack brewer. If someone >came up with a standalone version of the HBD Recipator, I'd be happy as a >lark.
Me, too. One thing I like about it that is a PITA for many other programs (especially ProMash) is that you can pretty much set up a whole recipe with minimal clickage. No dialogs that need to be popped up for each ingredient, etc. Quick, easy, and infinitely flexible. Haven't heard from author Mark Riley in many years, though. --
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Joel
>>I'm coming in late on the thread... and, I'm a hack brewer. If someone >>came up with a standalone version of the HBD Recipator, I'd be happy as a >>lark. > > Me, too. One thing I like about it that is a PITA for > many other programs (especially ProMash) is that you can > pretty much set up a whole recipe with minimal clickage. > No dialogs that need to be popped up for each ingredient, > etc. Quick, easy, and infinitely flexible. > Haven't heard from author Mark Riley in many years, > though. > -- > > Joel Plutchak "They're not people, they're HIPPIES!" > $LASTNAME at VERYWARMmail.com - Eric Cartman
Yep... incredibly easy to use and by now I have made the connection between the numbers it spits out and what I end up with. I'd need to go count them but I'm pretty sure it's over 50 batches completed and a boatload more that I've run through getting to the ones I've actually made. Admittedly, in my case, I don't *need* lots of detail and lots of stuff is in my head only, steeping times and temps, mashing times and temps, differences between hop types, etc. But I do *try* to write those things down.
In the end, it's like a word processor or spreadsheet... find the one that does what you need and stick with it.
Ed
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Ed Edelenbos
This was from my experience over a year ago. I have since given up trying to contact them. Although I sympathize with his current situation, it's no excuse for back when I was patiently trying to contact him and his company way back when. I hope that he fares well. But until I see at least some sort of response, even an automated one, I'll be looking for a program that has better support. >>> Good luck getting an answer from Promash. They don't answer their phone >>> OR >>> their emails. >> >>Here is an update that Jeff Donovan posted about a week ago on the >>ProMash site: > > > Hi > > Well, that is my question answered - in a way I am now sorry I asked; > the guy has my deepest sympathies, I sincerely hope his wife gets > better soon. > > I checked the Promash site for any upgrade info a week or so ago, > obviously I just missed his post. In the (sad) circumstances, I'll > just grit my teeth and wait - Jeff has far more important matters to > think about right now. > > Regards > > > KGB >
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