2001 CdP "Rubis" P. Lesec

Comments on CT seem mostly positive, but I don't know the tasters so can't really correlate:

My lukewarm comments on the CdR were about value, I'd probably try the CdP at $18 if I was confident re storage.

DaleW wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@l70g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

thanks Dale, I bought one but hesitate opening it just to know if I want to buy three more. August in Florida is not the time for drinking big reds.

Joseph, I hate to be the curmudgeon of this discussion (actually, I revel in my curmedugeonly tendencies if truth be known) but Patrick Lesec is known for the oaky wines he produces. From all of your posts here, I dare say that oaky CdP is not what you look for, so I would be prepared to open a backup wine should this one prove not to be to your tastes.

Mark Lipton

Mark Lipton wrote in news:f9r7hv$e3r$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org:

Hoo boy rain on my parade, don't you just feel swell. Actually I really appreciate the commnet, it is exactly what you don't always get from promises of 91 point ratings (though I must admit that 90+points has in the past often meant furniture!)

I think I will pass on the others and be content with my $7 find a 2003 Dolcetto di Diano d'Alba "Garabei" bottled by (note not produced, oh well it is $7) Abrigo Giovanni. It was light and fruity. a bit acidic on the finish in a sharp way but with a piece of chees (Reggiano) before dinner and hamburger well I could have done worse.

I don't really know Lesec, but the Rubis CdR didn't strike me as oaky, just overpriced at $16. Never had the CdP, but shouldn't be oaky, sounds like no new oak:

Reviews for 2001 Vintage

Chateauneuf du Pape Rubis is a blend of 95% Grenache and 5% Syrah aged in equal parts tank and old wood barrels. All of this cuvee comes from the famed La Crau sector. ... The dense ruby/purple-colored 2001 appears to be a worthy rival. Exhibiting more garrigue, lavender, and ground pepper notes in its black cherry, cassis, and plum-scented bouquet, it is a full-bodied example with terrific purity, a multidimensional palate feel, and a long, lusty, decadent finish. It will have 15+ years of aging potential." © The Wine Advocate

Don't always agree with Parker's reviews, but he's usually good re details.

DaleW wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

OK OK I open it this week and give it a try. If i love it the four on the shelf will be gone and if I don't it won't matter :-)

There you go again, Dale, confusing the discussion with FACTS! I really don't know what we're going to do about this annoying tendency of yours to substitute information for innuendo, insinuation and blind prejudice.

Mark Lipton