Booze deregulation leads to 11% drop in violent crime

This is similar to cannabis reclassification to class C - use went down. It is also as I predicted before the pub hours change.

didn't you make a wager on the outcome?

Yes, £10. Trouble is, I can't recall whom my bet is with!

brian

Of course, there will be more violence due to other drugs. What if the lads' favourite turns out to be crack instead of dope?

hmmmm, short term memory problems? ;^)

not bloody likely -- drug users exhibit very strong tendencies in the drugs they use, and some of them (like crack, heroin and pcp) are just

To your first point: totally untrue. Most of the violence is related to the black market drug trade, not the use of the drugs.

To your second point: won't happen. Crack "epidemics" always fail to continue because it becomes very obvious to others what becomes of crack addicts and they refuse even to try it.

-Pete Zakel ( snipped-for-privacy@seeheader.nospam)

"God made the integers; all else is the work of Man."

-Kronecker

Strange how a legal drug like alcohol seems to cause so much violence then.

-- Andy

What is your prediction about what will happen to tobacco use rates if/when they ban smoking in pubs?

What has the effect been of the *increasing* prohibition on smoking we've seen over the last 20 years or so?

-- Andy

Not strange at all. It has nothing to do with legal status, but with a property unique to alcohol.

Numerous studies have shown that the only drug that tends to provoke increased violence in users is alcohol.

-Pete Zakel ( snipped-for-privacy@seeheader.nospam)

"Public nudity is the evil the state seeks to prevent."

-William Rehnquist, Chief Justice of the United States

Banning smoking in pubs isn't the same thing as prohibition.

If simply possessing tobacco landed you in jail, THAT would be prohibition.

-Pete Zakel ( snipped-for-privacy@seeheader.nospam)

Nothing is faster than the speed of light...

To prove this to yourself, try opening the refrigerator door before the light comes on.

That's because alcohol is very atypical in its propensity to induce violent behaviour. Most other drugs do not.

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Salut/Hi Jasbird,

le/on Wed, 08 Feb 2006 06:34:52 GMT, tu disais/you said:-

Ah, but will the half backs like it too?

Or are you illiterate as well as provocative.

Oops, I should take my own advice.

DFTT

hypocrite.

Jasbird wrote:

OK, I admit it, I was wrong about the wingers. But I still think I'm right to take an optimistic view of human nature and to assume that good news is good.

ban

Er, yes it is. Have a look in the dictionary.

Prohibition of smoking in pubs, just like prohibition of smoking on trains, in the workplace etc. *is* prohibition. .

Have you never seen "smoking prohibited" signs? It does *not* mean possession is illegal.

That would be total prohibition. There is currently prohibition of smoking in certain places, like pubic transport etc, and which will probably be extended to pubs.

-- Andy