Cellar Distribution

Salut/Hi Bill Spohn,

le/on 10 Jan 2004 22:30:50 GMT, tu disais/you said:-

Very interesting breakdown.

10 means that I have 10 different wines (a 1999 and a 2000 of the same wine counts as 2) from a particular country, and the actual amount

I'm in exactly the same situation, so my list is to be read in the same way.

Australia 12 wines Austria 3 Bulgaria 2 Chile 4 France 293 Germany 20 Hungary 21 Italy 3 (hanging head in shame) New Zealand 7 Portugal 14 South Africa 1 Spain 15 Switzerland 6 UK 2 USA 8

My wine stock ranges from one bottle to about 18 bottles of each. I consider a wine different if it would merit an individual entry on a restaurant wine list.

French - 313; German - 142; Italian - 42; Hungarian - 12; Madeira - 27; Portugese - 31; Spanish - 18; US - 131; Other Countries - 20;

The German wines mostly are auslese up, and the Hungarian are Tokaji Aszu 5P up. The Madeira is mostly old vintage, and the Portugese is mostly Vintage Port. I do not have as many as I once had, because I have drunk most of my mistakes, and I am too old to buy more wines that need very long aging. Also, the price of many top wines has increased much in excess of inflation since I started collecting wines many years ago.

After the first two posts, I am almost too intimidated to respond, Bill! ;-) Here's mine: USA Cabernet - 42 Chardonnay - 4 Merlot - 5 Pinot Noir - 42 Rhone blends - 5 Sangiovese - 7 Syrah - 7 Zinfandel - 67 France Alsace - 6 Bandol - 4 Beaujolais - 3 Bordeaux - 38 Burgundy - 11 Chateauneuf du Pape - 41 Languedoc - 16 N. Rhone - 15 S. Rhone (not CdP) - 15 Italy - 14 Spain - 8 New Zealand - 5 Australia - 6 Austria - 5

Number of bottles ranges from 1-12, but is usually 6 or less.

Mark Lipton

You have to start bolstering the Aussie holdings, Mark - it's one of the QPR highlights these days.

Mine is similar - lots of 1-3, and I usually buy in 6 or 12, or even more if it is really goo value.

My number of different wines for those is

Bordeaux - 240 Burgundy - 22 Rhones - 116

My old DOS based program doesn't let me get all the numbers easily. Guess I should have switched to Exell, but it seems like too much work!

My meager five years of wine cellaring/collecting/fascination has led to the following:

Argentina - 2 Australia - 16 France Bordeaux - 12 Burgundy - 9 Languedoc - 1 Rhone - 17 Other - 3 USA Cab - 15 Chardonay - 8 Merlot - 3 Pinot Noir - 3 Rhone - 7 Syrah - 4 Zin - 14 Colorado - 1 Washington - 6 Germany - 3 Italy - 9 New Zealand - 2 Portugal - 2 Spain - 1 Washington - 6

As usual, any wine could range from 1 to 12 bottles. I cleaned out quite a bit of everyday wine before I moved last year, so most are on my long term plan.

Dark Helmet

Alas, Bill, our "local" purveyors of fine wine tend to carry none but the most commerical of Aussie wines. What I have is all from the Penfolds portfolio, as even getting my hands on D'Arenberg wines is something of a problem. My other problem is keeping the hands of SHMBO off the Bin 389 such that it gets a chance to age. Fortunately, I've made enough low growling noises when she nears the '98 St. Henri that I still retain a few bottles...

Yes, as our income has increased we've begun purchasing more of our favorite wines in larger lots, but even now springing for a case of, e.g., Beaucastel in a given year is just too restrictive.

I would have guessed something along those lines based on your tasting notes.

Ditto here. I still use an old HyperCard database I created on our home Mac many moons ago. If it ain't broke...

Mark Lipton

The distribution of my French wines is Bordeaux - 162, Burgundy - 95, ad Other - 56. The "other" includes a few wines from most of the major regions. I still keep a few bottles of Clos Sainte Hune from Alsace and several bottles of rich late harvest wies from Alsace and the Loire. I keep several bottles of Rhone including some Hermitage and Cote Rotie that keeps well. At one time, before Parker and inflation, Rhones were some of the best bargins in France, and then I bought many more for everyday drinking. Domaine de Beaucastel was quite reasonable then, and I often bought it. It was renamed Chateau some time ago. However it often was so tannic and closed in youth, that I usually had to age it several years. I also drank many more Italian wines in the past. At one time even very good Barolos were fairly reasonable, but the quality of Barolo in general was all over the map. I also drank many more Australan wines in the past when they were far more inexpensive than today - when you could find them. Even Grange was not extremely expensive, and I still have a bottle or two. I have bought very few California wines in the last few years since the price of several I liked went out of control. I can now find better value elsewhere for everyday wines.

France 305 Bordeaux 172 (155 red, 4 dry white, 13 sweet) Burgundy 91 (69 red, 22 white) Rhone 17 (15 red, 2 white) Loire 9 Alsace 16

Italy 61

Germany 20

Austria 7

Australia 8

New Zealand 8

Canada (Ontario) 3

US 116

CA 43 (35 red, 8 white) OR 39 (mostly pinot noir) WA 23 (mostly red) NY 7 CO 3 Arkansas 1

Port 20

Miscellaneous (Spain, South Africa, Argentina, Crete) 7

Tom Schellberg

Strong in most areas, Tom, but weak in Oz - taste or availability?

And Cypress - an errant bottle of Commanderia perhaps?

What I would expect given your location and what I know of your predelictions, but what is the large Hungarian contingent (although if it's Tokay with you, it's Tokay with me....)

what a punny guy you are.

predelictions,

Salut/Hi Bill Spohn,

le/on 11 Jan 2004 15:30:39 GMT, I said:-

and you asked

GROAN!!

Actually I was thinking of expanding slightly especially on my French wines, but in the meantime, my Hungarians.

I have 5 dry whites, some gifts some bought, mostly OTT, and mostly fairly random!

Apart from that the remaining 16 are from Tokaj and are sweet.

3 noble late harvest (roughly the OG of a 6 putts but not kept in barrel the legal time for an Aszu. .

1 szamarodni edes

Whew. Perhaps more later.

Having read with interest the other posts I've decided to have a go at this myself - again working to the same rules as set out by Bill Spohn in his original post I've come up with the following:

France - 166 Alsace - 38 Rhone - 43 Burgundy - 41 Loire - 4 Bordeaux - 31 Champagne - 9

New Zealand - 151 Spain - 5 Portugal - 13 Canada - 3 Australia - 9 Italy - 16 Hungary - 3 Germany - 45 Austria - 1 USA - 3

I live in NZ and started collecting wine here which is why it plays such a prominent role in my cellar. It's come as quite a shock to realise I own more French wine than New Zealand!

Regards

Siobhan

well if you can admit it...lol...so can I.

Aust.......... 460/500 NZ............14/500 France.....15/500 Hungary...4/500 Others..... 7/500...

Admitting total bias due to....avaialbility..... cost....and

*cough*...preference..

If I could fill my celllar with Cote Roties...I would....

Regards

Swooper

And a very healthy German component!

You should be able to give us some good comparisons of Antipodean Rieslings with German! I was just discussing this with someone elese - I said that the Grosset Rieslings (Watervale & Polish) from Australia are all well and good, but not when they cost the equivalent of $50A. in Canada, instead of maybe $30 A.

In this market, you can buy very good German wines for less.

I'm sure it will come as no surprise to those who know (of) me that my list consists of the product of one country and one region therein. The larder is severely depleted as this year's acquisition search is just now beginning.

Canada - 91 White: Niagara College of Technology (NCT) Chardonnay 2001 - 2 NCT Chardonnay 2002 - 9

Brock University Riesling 99 - 1. Made and bottled by initial class of graduates from the Cool Climate Oenological Institute (one of whom is my 2nd cousin) - label signed by full class. Never to be drunk.

Red: Lailey CF 2001 - 5 Peninsula Ridge CF/M 99 - 4 Southbrook CF/M 99 - 4 Inniskillin Shiraz 00 - 5 Cave Spring Cellars Gamay 00 - 7 Daniel Lenko M 00 - 6 Chateau des Charmes CF/M 00 - 14 Jackson-Triggs Meritage 98 - 8 13th St. Sandstone Meritage 98 - 12 Daniel Lenko Meritage 99 - 11 Malivoir PN 2002 - 1 Inniskillin Old Vines Foch 00 - 1 Inniskillin SLH CF 98 - 1

Ok, using criteria Bill stated (these are particular bottlings, many if not most I only have one bottle of , no more than 12 of any one): France 220 (Bordeaux 98, Burgundy 54, Rhone 30, Loire 15, Alsace 14, rest other- Languedoc, SW, etc) Italy 41 (mostly Piemonte) US 31 Germany 26 Austria 9 Portugal 7 Spain 6 Australia 6 Chile 2 Lebanon 2

This might not be totally accurate, as there are wines that haven't been entered, and probably a few that have been consumed that I forgot to send to archived file.

It's also not neccessarily indicative of what I drink. No NZ? I drink a fair amount of NZ SB, but I don't enter in database, as I put immediately in the drink rack. The Italians are mostly Piemonte, because that's what I cellar more of, but I drink Chianti more often than Barolo. I probably drink Loire as much as any region, but only Savennieres and sweet ones are in cellar database. And so on.

Dale

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Mine is more geared towards Napa at the presant time. The Napa percentage has gone down over the last year with Spain and France picking up most of the slack.

Australia 27 wines 49 bottles France 53 93 Germany/Austria 18 25 Italy 21 29 Napa 162 227 Other US 65 107 Portugal 1 1 South America 11 15 Spain 21 66

In the past, most of my purchases were one or two bottles. Over the last several months I have started buying 4 to 12 bottles of the wines I like.

These numbers will be changing when some of my imported wine on order shows up. The Napa numbers will probably go up in May when I visit Napa again.

Bill Spohn wrote: : I was asked the question of what the distribution of the wine of various : countries was in my cellar.

making my own rules here, Bill, but that's only because I haven't tracked wine purchases in a database (paper, yes) for a number of years now, but here's the distribution:

Bordeaux 25% Italy 25% Rhone 15% Burgundy 13% Germany 5% Loire 5% California5% Austria 2% Spain 2% Alsace 3%