Do women approach wine differently?

They smell better.

My simple answer would be, some do, and some do not. My vast experience with women and wine and women & wine indicate that it is an individual thing.

Hunt

You don't believe that women are more concerned with price than men?

"UC" skrev i meddelandet news: snipped-for-privacy@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

Put it like this: how do men approach wine? Now, do you see the impossibility of answering this in a meanigful amnner? I am a man (if you have any doubts, please ask Xina). I have bought a wine that cost SEK 1000 (1 USD = 7,5). I asked my wife if this was OK. She answered, without a doubt. But, that is XIna. And you will have to look long and hard to find a woman like that (getting slightly soppy and being rather the worse for emtpying a bottle of Coteaux de Layon from 1988). Do you want to generalise from her?Not likely. Do you want to generalise from yourself to all men who (sometimes) drink wine? I think not.

I don't know if this answers your question. If not, please get back to me and I will try to explain what I mean. I'm free thsi weekend.

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

Btw, where's Ian?

M.

That's my experience too. They are however less willing than men to intellectualise about wine.

Wouldn't like to say about how they select wines though.

Hello, Steve! You wrote on Sat, 30 Sep 2006 19:02:18 +0100:

??>> My opinion is that a lot of women have better nose(s) than ??>> men. I have frequently been astounded by the ??>> perceptiveness of women of my aquaintance who, having no ??>> formal education, will make very, very accurate ??>> descriptions of smell and flavour of wines.

SS> That's my experience too. They are however less willing SS> than men to intellectualise about wine.

SS> Wouldn't like to say about how they select wines though.

I'm a little disappointed by the lack of response from the ladies:-) Come to think of it, very few of the signatures on this ng sound female.

James Silverton Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.comcast.not

There are quite a few lady winemakers in the US. We do not seem to have many widely read lady wine critics. However the UK has many lady authors of wine books, wine auction house employees, and several lady MWs. France has quite a few ladies very interested in wine. Mme. Leroy comes to mind. Her life seems to be dedicated to making the best wine possible. Although she is not a large woman, you had best be well prepared if you discuss wines with her, because she has a reputation of not suffering fools lightly.

In the 1800s, low-acidity, light sweet wines, very sweet sherry, and spirits such as creme de rose, etc often were called ladies drinks. I have no idea if such language was based on fact. I doubt if anyone made controlled surveys then to see if ladies really liked low acid and sweeter wines more than men. I doubt it. The men could drink plenty of sweet port then. They might select Drambuie over creme de rose, but one can hardly say that this was because Drambuie is not sweet.

James...

Very few? Try nil to none. Those females that do try to participate are immediately assumed to be male, and AFW members insist that a firm "pantyhose check" be done to confirm the gender and/or species of the poster.

And regarding the recent post.. what constitutes a "wine snob"? How about what constitutes a "wine chauvinist"? This list is anything but open to new faces from the female gender.

David

"Dave" skrev i meddelandet news: snipped-for-privacy@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Dave - spot on. And it causes me pain thqt it is so. From time to time ladies have posted here, but apparently not stuck around (An American lady living in Alto Adige, e g, was extremely helpful when I was going there a few years ago, but she hasn't posted for a long time). I would of course challenge anyone to claim I had performed a 'pantyhose check' (now, now ...) on any poster - but I must agree that something in this NG is unconducive to female membership.

Some of the answers the signature Jenn got could be a clue ... where do we find the smoking gun?

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

"Mike Tommasi" skrev i meddelandet news: snipped-for-privacy@individual.net...

Exactly. What on Earth has political correctness to do with this? Oh - except, hey, hang on ... Mike, watch out or the appearence of Dr Sigmund Lindgren might become a regular on this NG and YOU DON'T WANT THAT!

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

"James Silverton" wrote in news:NtednQutYbT3dIPYnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com:

Well, I'm here :) Usually, I am just lurking and learning.

I've only been serious about appreciating wine for, oh, the past 3 or 4 years. Before that, we would just have a 1.5 liter of whatever around. When I started to get interested, I kept all sorts of notes, but didn't have anyone to taste and discuss with. After a while, I started to not keep notes any longer, and just have some fun with different wines. (Maybe a little more confident?)

I look to see what folks here and some other places are talking about, and if it's available in Pennsylvania (and not mad-expensive!). A young man at one of the state stores asked me when I was going to find a wine I liked, he noticed that I bought different wines all the time ;) I imagine that the greater percentage of folks, male and female (here in the US?) will find somethimg they like and stick to it. Brand familiarity ;)

Unfortunately, until very recently, none of my friends here, male or female, were interested in experimenting, so I didn't have anyone to discuss with; now I do :)

Tonight, Hr Dr R and I will have Ch. Meyney 2000; no great expectations, but I have almost a vertical of, hm, 94, 95 or 96, 97, 98, and 99, so we might go wild and crazy this week and open them all ;) w00t!

d. :)

That has not been my intimate experience, but then I do not dine with random women. My wife will not flinch at the cost of the wine, except when it is on her expense account. Then, I usually find a "happy medium" with price and pleasure. Since I have never worked in wine retail, I am not the best person to comment on this aspect of wine purchasing by gender.

Hunt

Demonstrably false. Perhaps you should talk to Enoavidh a bit more than you have, Dave.

Those females that do try to participate are

Horseshit. You are taking one incident out of context and attempting to tar this whole group with it. Can you name more than one incident, Dave?

I do agree with you that UC's recent tirade directed against a first-time female poster was regrettable in the extreme. Of course, since UC finds favor with you and Dick, I don't expect to hear any criticism of him coming from your keyboard any time soon. If you can find any _other_ evidence of such behavior occuring in this group, please post the Message-IDs or a Google Groups URL. Frankly, it seems to me that you're just going down the same road that Dick went down, in which case you can expect the same unfortunate results.

Mark Lipton

"Mark Lipton" .....

Since you have raised the subject, Professor Lipton

Does the chemical composition of horseshit vary much between Oregon and Ohio?

And since there is such a ready supply, do you have a recipe for Horseshit Hash and a recommended wine match?

;-)

Your Lordship: I can not answer your question, but since you seem to have an interest in exotic dishes and wines to match, perhaps you could answer a wine matching question that Dale Williams has not including in the FAQs. In the Sept 2006 issue of the Smithsonian there was an article "Sleeping With Cannibals". The author ventured deep into the rain forests of Indonesian New Guinea to study some of the few remaining cannibals in the world. He had guides that were members of the tribe that had moved away to settlements. Actually the tribe members, who live in tree houses, do not consider themselves cannibals. Rather they only eat khakhuas, which result when an evil spirit invades a human body and takes it over. They cook the khakhua as they cook pig. They place palm leaves over the banana leaf wrapped meat along with burning hot river rocks to make steam. When asked if the flesh tastes like pig, the natives say no. It is compared to the taste of young cassowary, which is a local ostrich-like bird. The taste of the body parts is said to be good, but the taste of the brains is said to be best.

This area of the world is much closer to where you live than where I live, so perhaps you know something about the mentioned bird and thus could suggest a good wine match for khakhua. Dale could put it in his matching FAQs, and this likely would be a FAQ that can not be found elsewhere. :-)

Hm-m-m, does this means that it tastes [kinda'] like chicken? Think I will pass, regardless. BTW, what wine did they serve with the "khakhua?"

Hunt