Everyday "house wine"

MikeD wrote in news:NpD8e.686$rC7.89 @newssvr31.news.prodigy.com:

My current red du jour is Montepulciano d' Abruzzo from Bosco bpught at Cpostco for 9.97 US a really nice wine with limited (two months?) aging potential but great taste right now.

MikeD wrote in news:NpD8e.686$rC7.89 @newssvr31.news.prodigy.com:

For white I can't beat the 5.99 for 2000 La Vignee from Bouchard pere et fils though I only have four bottles left and I doubt I will ever see that price again.

White: I recently discovered Clos du Bois Reserve Chardonnay for $12.95. To my palate it's reminiscent of Cakebread at 1/3 the price.

Red: Estancia Cabernet Sauvignon ($10).

Ed Jay (remove M to respond)

Mike,

There was a recent thread on this subject. For more info than you have gotten so far, you might want to look at "house wine," for this group in Google. Groups. The thread was about three months back, IIRC.

For me, Caymus Conundrum for white, Costco ~US$20.

Red, Glen Carlou, Grand Classique, SA, Parrl, Costco ~US$13, Bdx blend.

Italian red, Gabbiano Chianti Reserva, ~US$ 18.

Port, Taylors 10year Tawny, ~US$ 25.

OTOH, I also open quite a few different wines nightly, depending on what wine

-club shipments have arrived. These, however, are my everyday wines and are usually to be found around the house on any given evening. I do choose from about 3,000 btls for anything that I really want to pair, however.

Tonight, I'm trying "kobe" burgers with a Selby Syrah, and a Duckhorn Merlot.

Hunt

Salut/Hi MikeD,

le/on Mon, 18 Apr 2005 00:44:29 GMT, tu disais/you said:-

Bergerac Domaine de L'Ancienne Cure Red & White in bag in a box Côteaux de Glanes.

and up a bit in quality Bergerac Ch Tour des Gendres Red, white & Pink

But I don't drink with most meals except when we have clients.

Cost me $38.00 CAN. Very nice but a "splurge" wine when SWMBO wants one.

Again $38.00 for me but this one often last me a week when I decide to binge on cigars.

I do find it easier to buy drinkable reds as a house wine than drinkable whites. Our long standing red is a Morgon bought at the vineyard for about £3.60. Amongst the whites we drink regularly are a (Sauvignon de) St. Bris and a Côtes d‘Auxerre Chardonnay bought, again at the vineyard, for about the same price. The truth is that ther is a lot of decent wine in France for about that money if you can be bothered (or have the time for the fun) to look for it.

I would guess all those would sell in the UK for between £6.80 and £8.00, depedning on the greed of the importer!

My brother‘s pub in Devon has been using a Marsanne from the Cave de Tain which retails here at £4.95+ and, recently, a Languedoc red at about the same price.

Tim Hartley

] I do find it easier to buy drinkable reds as a house wine than drinkable ] whites. Our long standing red is a Morgon bought at the vineyard for about ] £3.60. Amongst the whites we drink regularly are a (Sauvignon de) St. Bris ] and a Côtes d_Auxerre Chardonnay bought, again at the vineyard, for about ] the same price. The truth is that ther is a lot of decent wine in France ] for about that money if you can be bothered (or have the time for the fun) ] to look for it. ]

Care to share more details, Tim?

We used to get a pretty good, and _very_ cheap Sauvignon St Bris from Sorin de France. Interested in the name on the Morgon, too.

Our current house table wines are usually coop cheapies from the southern Rhone, Rasteau, Beames de Venise, Vacqueyras. These coops do reliable work for around 5 Eu. There are a few Loire thrown in there too, but really mostly Rhone. For white we often use a coop Schlossberg Riesling.

-E

The St.Bris (and the Côtes d_Auxerre Chardonnay) is from Defrance although those who like a greener more upfront style might like to try Goisot.

The Mogon we usually buy is from Roland Petit at Domaine de Montplain though we have also had other good Beaujolais from both of the Caves Cooperatives at Fleurie and Chiroubles and also from M. Pein at the Domaine de Rochebonne at Theizé in Southern Beuajolais. Whilst the latter is obviously not Cru Beujolias it provides very decent drinking at a very fair price - about £2.80 a bottle when I last bought some. In fact I shall hunt out a bottle for supper, this having whetted my appetite or thirst.

Whilst on the subject several of the Maconnais cooperatives also provide good everyday drinking at a fair price — Lugny and Vinzelles spring to mind as does the Cave at Buxy for Montagny and cheap red Pinots.

Cheers,

Tim Hartley

Well MikeD, did you get some worthwhile wines in this thread. As I suggested, also see the previous thread for several lists from other posters. I'll be checking the Web site, to see if any of these made it into the tasting rotation. One thing to consider here, is that this is an international NG, so recommendations for wines, whether to pair with food, or of a type to hit a price-point, will often yield suggestions that are just not available to the OP, because of location and distribution. That's one of the great things about wine, it is available everywhere, just not all of it available everywhere.

This is one good reason for people to post their location, when asking for recommendations. Now, I know that you were just interested in what everyone was drinking as a "every day" wine, but did you see the spread in people's choices - try and find some of those (probably great wines, especially for the $) in Omaha, NE/US, especially at the Piggly-Wiggley.

Hunt

MikeD escreveu:

I think most Rioja Crianza (red) of good producers are fine as an every day wine. Recently I tasted a Vin de Pays d'Oc very interesting (Altera, from Schroder & Schyler), only US$ 16.00 (well, in Brazil we have VERY HIGH import taxes on beverages, so maybe it costs only US$ 10.00 elsewhere(. Another very "drinkable" wine is Alamos Cabernet Sauv from Catena, Argentina. Only U$ 13.50 (or about US$ 8.00).

Hunt:

I knew I'd get an international flavored response. My question wasn't geared so much towards running out and trying to find those wines as it was to get a feel for what people in the NG prefer.

I see a lot of responses listing French wines, so I guess I better get to work trying a few. I've had a few non-varietal French reds (Cotes du Rhone, Beaujolais) but I'm pretty far behind the rest of you, so I better get moving. I just hope my liver holds out!

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Hunt wrote:

Cocha y Toro Casillero del Diablo, Ch$3,200.-, (about US$6) Cabernet Sauvignon

Nothing comes close in terms of price/performance.

-Indirecto

Good point about the location often semi-dictating the selection. I live in Seattle, where I can fairly easily barrel taste the Walla Walla and Yakima Valley wines two/three times a year, a definite advantage when buying less expensive stuff by the case. Right now I use Hogue Fume Blanc 2004, a DiStefano rose got on case sale (shared with a friend who has a discount), Animale Syrah 2002 (pre-sale, as my longtime friend lives two doors down from the winemaker), and a JM Cellars Cab/Merlot blend.

There are some great value FR wines in fairly wide distribution in the US. If you can score some Morgon Beaujolais, it doesn't get much better (from that appellation) than those. They, like most designated BJs hold up to a few years of cellaring. The Loire Valley also sees wide distribution in US and offers some very interesting wines. Good drinking, and to your liver (health)!

Hunt

Timothy Hartley wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@tgh.eurobell.co.uk:

I agree with the recommendation of the cave de Fleurie. I had some Fleuries not too long ago that were very nice (even from the not very highly estimated 2001 vintage).

From the Cave in Buxy I tried two wines: The basic Montagny from '02 that was fairly nice - clean and crisp Chardonnay but buying that here in Austria is not really attractive, you get a lot of local wines similar in style with better quality for less money. The second was a Premier Cru Montagny from '98, tasted in 2004. I remeber that it was really satisfying, a nice maturing white Burgundy. May be I'll by around Buxy this summer - I'm sure I'll try to taste the stuff from "La Buxynoise".

Regards, Robert

] In message ] Emery Davis wrote: ] ] > On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:49:55 +0100, Timothy Hartley said: ] > ] > ] I do find it easier to buy drinkable reds as a house wine than drinkable ] > ] whites. Our long standing red is a Morgon bought at the vineyard for about ] > ] £3.60. Amongst the whites we drink regularly are a (Sauvignon de) St. Bris ] > ] and a Côtes d_Auxerre Chardonnay bought, again at the vineyard, for about ] > ] the same price. The truth is that ther is a lot of decent wine in France ] > ] for about that money if you can be bothered (or have the time for the fun) ] > ] to look for it. ] > ] ] > ] > Care to share more details, Tim? ] ] The St.Bris (and the Côtes d_Auxerre Chardonnay) is from Defrance although ] those who like a greener more upfront style might like to try Goisot. ]

The very same! We've been a client of Sorin (de France or Defrance?) for many years, always been excellent value.

I wrote last year about finding 6 forgotten bottles of '95, they were actually pretty good!

] The Mogon we usually buy is from Roland Petit at Domaine de Montplain though ] we have also had other good Beaujolais from both of the Caves Cooperatives ] at Fleurie and Chiroubles and also from M. Pein at the Domaine de Rochebonne ] at Theizé in Southern Beuajolais. Whilst the latter is obviously not Cru ] Beujolias it provides very decent drinking at a very fair price - about ] £2.80 a bottle when I last bought some. In fact I shall hunt out a bottle ] for supper, this having whetted my appetite or thirst. ]

Well done. I'll keep my eyes open, actually may be in the area in the not too distant future.

One of our favorites is Jacques Trichard, both Morgon and Regnie, as well as a very decent villages level.

] Whilst on the subject several of the Maconnais cooperatives also provide ] good everyday drinking at a fair price _ Lugny and Vinzelles spring to mind ] as does the Cave at Buxy for Montagny and cheap red Pinots. ]

Noted, thanks for that.

cheers,

-E

Right now:

Red: 2002 Cline "5 Reds". White: 2004 Kim Crawford SB

Dean