How do you say "corked" in Italian

That's a good question. I've heard someone say "Sa di tappo" meaning "it tastes like cork", but I don't think that's particularly technical.

Also, why do italians both say "sughero" and "tappo" for cork? I guess the former comes from the latin "suber" but I don't know about "tappo".

Mike Tomassi would know. :)

Marcello

Well, yes, I would. "sughero" is the cork material, "tappo" is the actual stopper. In english one uses the same word for both...

Mike

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It isn't even accurate. A corked wine doesn't taste like cork.

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Thanks, but can you also help with how to say "corked"?

I don't know about Italian, but in Spanish it's "Sammy Sosa".

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-- Robert

Is neither technical nor accurate, but "sa di tappo" is the idiom we use to describe a bottle with TCA. It doesn't really taste like cork, but you can smell a light (or strong) cork flavour.

Bye

Flavio

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There's no arguing with idioms. If that's the way it's said, then that's the way to say it. Thanks very much.

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I agree. 'Questa bottiglia sa di tappo' is a good translation for 'This bottle is corked'.

Ciao Cesare

Ciò che ha detto Cesare ( snipped-for-privacy@tiscali.it) è così interessante, che devo dire la mia:

It tastes cork = sa di tappo the wine is corked = il vino è tappato

Luk

Hi Luk

Didn't know so many IHV people also hang around AFW...

Your description ignores the ambiguity of the word "corked". It can mean "stopped with a cork" and also "tainted in flavor by an unsound cork". If you say "the wine is corked", you are obviously referring to taint, but if you say the bottle is corked, it depends on context, it could mean it is has a stoper in it or its content is tainted.

Ciao

Mike

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But coming back to my original question of how to tell the waiter the wine is no good, that context should make it very clear. If a waiter served the wine and I tasted it and told him the bottle is corked, clearly I'm not saying that it has a stopper in it.

Of course. But Luk's answer in italian only adresses the other context, that the bottle has a stopper in it...

Mike

It is exaclty what I meant.

I wrote "the wine is corked", not "the bottle is corked". I supposed no ambiguity in the context. It is also a comon way to say in IHV. Nevertheless my english is far to be perfect.... OK Ken, call the wayter ant say " Mi scusi, il vino sa di tappo, può sostituirmi la bottiglia per cortesia?" Write and remind it!!! :-)))

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Thanks again. Will do (next time).

I wish you won't need! :-)

Flavio

Which would be the same in English technically. If you said to someone, who is not "wine literate", that "this wine is corked" they would assume that you meant that it had a cork in it as opposed to a screw cap which is, in and of itself humerous because if it had a screw cap it wouldn't have a cork and there's a strong likeyhood that it wouldn't have TCA taint! Bi!!

Just a lower probability of being corked. A non negligible part of TCA contaminations start in the barrels, in the treated wooden beams of the cellar, and in all kinds of places. Corks are not the only explanation.

I have tasted wines with Supreme-Corq synthetic stoppers that were ... corked.

Mike