Nicolas Joly's business card

Hi M.

nice card!

/mode tongue in cheek=on/

perhaps he cannot put winemaker since his daughter is in charge of winemaking now?

/mode tongue in cheek=off/

I suppose it was interesting. I have read his book about byodinamics and found it horribly bad written and plenty of dogma. I prefer his wines to his speech.

s.

I like the bit on his website stating unequivocally that biodynamic wines cannot oxidize. Sigh, his own wines in some years are living proof of the contrary. He really thinks he is "the elected".

Err, can you please give me the UR in which this claim is made. All I could find was a description in execrable english of what happens when you taste wine once opened. I quote.

"Once opened, wines made in this way continue to improve – and are in no way oxydized. To be sure that the color is not oxydation you can make the test yourself by tasting each day a glass over several days without putting the bottle in the fridge just recork. You will see the wine improving the first days even sometimes over more than a week. If the wine would be oxydized it would be undrinkable."

That's not the same at all, is it?

-- All the best Fatty from Forges

No, it's here:

"Les vins issus d’agriculture biodynamique ne craignent pas l’oxydation"

more or less: "Wines made through biodynamic agriculture cannot suffer from oxydation."

This sounds like Depardieu all over again. I read this as "are not prone to oxydation." (lit "don't have fear of"). I sometimes help with French press releases in English, I would not accept your translation, sorry. ;)

Regardless of course, I don't see how biodynamic methods effect oxidization, so we agreed on the "fond." (To put it into proper franglais).

-E

How about this (from the same source): "Le soufre est une forme de lumière." (lit "sulphur is a form of light"). It is a relief that most biodynamical procedures are in themselves fairly innocent ... and some wines, but certainly not all, emanating from biodynamical practice are, indeed, quite good ...

Cheers

Nils

I would say that most are quite good, and many are excellent.

Once again, I tend to think that the secret is in dedication - you can't do all that cow's horn stuff and whAtever without being dedicated to your work. That, and possibly the lack of pesticides resulting (hopefully) in a living soil.

OTOH, I do not for a moment doubt that I don't know anything.

Cheers

Nils

On Apr 19, 4:03 am, Mike Tommasi wrote: t biodynamic

Indeed. Not on my buy list, quite risky.