picking the perfect wine for my weekly wine night with the girls

Mark: What do I say to people who don't read and don't respond to what was SAID? If people want to discuss wine pairings, fine, but that was NOT what this thread was about. The OP expressed disappointment with her wine-drinking experience. She was apparently given advice that she did not understand (she said she was advised, by a party unknown to us to go with a Riserva) in that a Riserva is usually a big, bold, well-aged wine. Jose and several others have talked about wine-food (meal) pairings and how important those can be, when she is not interested in that and has flatly stated such in reply to my posts. I can only vent my frustration that however Jose and I and you might agree on the nature of suitable accompaniment, Jenn to all appearances does not care in the slightest. She just wants to drink wine with "the girls" on Friday nights. I would simply say to such a person that any fruity light white wine would be fine for such drinking, but not most full-bodied reds, which DEMAND a real dinner, not a snack, as accompaniment. Is that clear enough? Is that polite enough? Answer the questions posed, not what you want to discuss!

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UC
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Jenn:

welcome to the group, please excuse the ruder ones.

Goat cheese and red wine is a pretty hard match. In fact, I'd nominate goat cheese as in the top 10 winekillers. If you're trying Italian reds, you might try harder cows milk or sheep milk cheeses- Parmigiano Reggiano if you want to stick to Italy, otherwise Cheddar, aged Gouda, etc. If you have a goat cheese you want to try, Sauvignon Blanc (especially from the Loire Valley) is the safest bet.

The thing about Chianti is that it's a vast area, with growers who range from sublime to substandard. A great producer's Chianti Classico will be far better than a poor producer's Chianti Classico Riserva. The wines fall into 3 basic categories:

Chianti (no other designation) - the basic model

Chianti followed by a subregion: Colli Senesi, Colli Fiorentini, Colline Pisane, Colli Aretini,Rufina, Classico. Chianti Rufina and Chianti Classico are generally considered the finest.

Riserva - DOCG regulations allow producers to add the Riserva designation to wines that meet certain criteria (I know they must be aged longer before release, and I believe they might have a higher minimum alcohol, maybe a half-degree?). But these regulations aren't especially strict- I believe in CCR there is no specific requirement that the time be spent in wood?

It's seldom that one finds a really good wine at the basic Chianti label- or for that matter at the Chianti (insert subregion) level, except Rufina and Classico. Riserva might be better, or not. To me it's far more important that the wine be from a good producer than whether it has a Riserva designation. I tend to like Fattoria di Felsina, Fontodi, Fonterutoli, Brolio, di Ama, di Volpaia, Isole e Olena, Melini, Monsanto, Viticcio.

If you are looking for wines that are a little rounder for tasting, without spending a lot you can get some good internationally-styled mostly Sangiovese Toscanos for less than $10- try the Antinori Santa Christina, or the Monte Antico. Another popular wine is the Falesco Vitiano, from Umbria, not far from Tuscany.

HTH, and welcome to AFW

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DaleW

There is little to add to what Dale wrote above. The point I have been emphasizing is that almost any red of the Chianti type will taste rather bitter without a meal, one that includes either red meat or tomato sauce.

Reds that might go well alone include Dolcetto d'Alba (Piedmont) or Monica di Sardegna (Sardinia). Both can be found for around $12-20 or so.

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UC

Like me! I very much enjoy just sipping on a fine wine. I even love sipping on a big bold red. I don't care much for the traditional 'sipping' wines with or without food.

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miles

Complete bull!! I love the very same Chianti just for sipping without food. Everyone has their own tastes and preferences. The appropriate meal or lack of is subject to ones own likes and dislikes.

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miles

A proper meal MAY make the difference for a particular person. Most likely it will not. She probably just didn't like the particular wine.

I had a bad experience with a glass of Boonsfarm. Then another time I had a bad experience with a glass of Thunderbird. Both times it was with goat cheese. Therefore it must have been because I didn't have it with an appropriate meal. Too funny.

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miles

I happen to enjoy sipping on Chianti. Sometimes with a lighter meal but Italian red sauce meals I enjoy with it as well. With stronger meals including red meats or spicy meals I prefer a much bolder wine than a Chianti.

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miles

But YOU are not SHE, are you? The reason SHE had a bad experience is the reason I gave. Who says you can speak for others? Such arrogance!

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UC

But YOU are not SHE, are you! The reason SHE had a bad experience is the reason I gave. Who says you can speak for others? Such arrogance!

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UC

But YOU are not SHE, are you? The reason SHE had a bad experience is the reason I gave. Who says you can speak for others? Such arrogance!

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UC

How do you know this? Are you SHE? Are you speaking for her? Talk about complete arrogance.

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miles

Ok, I got the fact you're arrogant and speaking for her the 1st time. Three times is a bit much!

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miles

The Google groups was not behaving normally. I kept getting an error message.

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UC

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