Pinging DaleW ...

Mar 17, 2007 10 Replies

Hello Dale, I tried the recipe - rather, I did my best but had no ginger so did without, also walnuts somewhat stale from sitting in cupboard since Xmas - served with pike perch (walleye to you Merkins), wild rice, and sallad with wakame - very good. 2004 Chablis Laroche (screwcapped) in the glass, a nice commune wine, fresh fruit and stainless steel ... no doubt an A on your scale, if not too expensive I'll try to find some more bottles if they are not out which is often the case.



Cheers



Nils


Thank you for that Nils! I've always found it strange that every dictionary gives pike perch as the translation for Zander, yet neither I nor any other American I know ever heard of such a fish. Walleye is a different matter.

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OK, trying again. Was the Laroche labeled "St Martin"? That's the basic Chablis marketed here, generally quite good for label. Thanks for recipe report. I'm glad you don't think me a miserable pig. :)

I think pike perch would be the UK (or, British) name for the fish in question. Funnily, the Italian name, lucioperca, also means pike perch. In most West European languages (French, German, Danish ...) it is called something like sandre. Exception Sweden where it is gös (the o with two dots over it for those of you who are umlautically challenged).

Remember the moose/elk discussion? Let's hope this doesn't get out of hand ...

Cheers

Nils

When I met Hugh Johnson a few years ago, ther same question arose. He stated that "pike-perch" was the term given by most dictionaries, but that in fact that was not correct. Most English menus would use the French term "sandre". He didn't know the correct English term, however.

M.

So it is, belongs to the standard assortment on Systembolaget, costs SEK 125 which translates into USD 18. And it is even available.

Never did, Dale, never did.

Cheers

Nils

From the omniscient fishbase website

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an extensive list of names (sorry for the poor formatting):

Common Names of Sander lucioperca

Common Name Used In Language Type Official trade name

Perch-pike UK English Vernacular No Pike-perch UK English FAO No Pikeperch UK English Vernacular No Zander UK English Vernacular No Zander USA English AFS No

Perche-brochet France French Vernacular No Sandre France French FAO No

Amaul Germany German Vernacular No Berschick Russian Fed German Vernacular No Candat Germany German Vernacular No Fogas Hungary German Vernacular No Hechtbarsch Germany German Vernacular No Nagemaul Germany German Vernacular No Sandart Germany German Vernacular No Sandat Germany German Vernacular No Sandaten Germany German Vernacular No Sandbarsch Germany German Vernacular No Sandel Germany German Vernacular No Sander Germany German Vernacular No Sannat Germany German Vernacular No Saumer Germany German Vernacular No Saumert Germany German Vernacular No Schiel Germany German Vernacular No Schill Austria German Vernacular No Schill Germany German Vernacular No Schindel Germany German Vernacular No Wolgazander Russian Fed German Vernacular No Zander Germany German Vernacular No Zannat Germany German Vernacular No Zant Germany German Vernacular No

Quite interesting to see how many names that critter can have in the various strains of German. Do they love it more than the rest of the world? (or is it just more common there?)

And the walleye is indeed a different species, but from the same genus (Sander).

Hello, I note that they too call it pike perch (Hechtbaarsch). And yes, possibly it is very beloved - it is an excellent eating fish, accomodating cooking with little problem, does not get rubbery igf slightly overheated, and has a nicely firm, white meat. My favorite freshwater fish.

Depending on how you cook it, it will also happily pair with both white and lighter reds (Pinot Noir from Savigny-lès-Beaune, e g).

Cheers

Nils

Thanks for the excellent site! Every once in a while the internet kicks up something really useful.

-E

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I remember this fish being discussed in the venerable "Angling Times" when I was a teenager and keen on fishing. ISTR it was also spelled Xander. Graham

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