Re: eiswein vs. ice wine

"Ian Hoare" in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Salut/Hi Peter Muto, > > >IE if someone is freezing grapes and selling the resultant 'icewine', > >Canada (and Germany I believe too) are trying to prevent anyone from > >calling it icewine/eiswein. > > Err, doesn't that depend upon what exactly you mean by "someone is freezing > grapes".

I understand that in past times it was believed that Someone controlled nature, and this Someone was naturally credited with freezing the grapes. Today many mere "someones" strive to be, or to imitate, Someone. (Was it not always so?)

"Neil R." in news:xVeac.131792$ snipped-for-privacy@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

geez.....ice wine is simply the english translation of the german eiswein.

This is getting profound. (-: They are the same words, after all, passed orally from one language to a sibling language, even spelled almost the same.)

Armed with such profundities, I shall soon forward some truly searching questions.

Salut/Hi Max,

le/on Wed, 31 Mar 2004 21:13:35 -0800, tu disais/you said:-

With respect Max, I think there's a difference in principle between leaving grapes on the vine, and picking and pressing when well frozen, on the one hand (what you could call a traditional approach - your "Someone") and picking the grapes late in the year, and then either leaving them out to be frozen or freezing them in big freezers, like cranberries, and THEN pressing them (a fairly recent innovation - your "someone"). If I understand Dave's somewhat elliptical writing style, there is an organisation in Canada, who are seeking to prevent the use of the word "Ice Wine" for wine made in this latter method. I think we had better draw a veil of the technique of cryo-extraction, as used "experimentally" here and there, to concentrate the must _without_ attaching the name "Ice Wine".

Typical of what happens when Qangos try to create legislation.

I look forward to them.