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May 26, 2005 10 Replies

Gentlemen,



Which wine other than the top quality Rieslings from MSR has the following traits?



1) Crammed with fruity aromas of ripe apricots, peach, honey, grapefruit, minerals etc., (dubbed as Fruit Bombs by connoisseurs)
2) light and refreshing with less than 11% alc. to go with hot explosive Asian cuisines and sweltering summer,
3) unwooded for the true character of the berries (no foreign aromas like butter, vanilla, toasted bread etc inherited from various types of wooden barrels),
4) enough acidity to cut through fatty or oily food,
5) that can be cellared for 10 years and beyond and still drinks deliciously refreshing,
6) ability to reflect terroir and true to its soil,
7) well-balanced between acidity and natural sweetness (approx. 1.5% ~ 2% residual sugar),
8) 100 % hand harvested grapes,
9) can be made into a wonderful dessert wine that fetches more than US$1000 a bottle in annual wine competitions the World over,
10) received high scores from reputable wine authorities like Wine Spectators, Robert Parkers, Jancis Robinson, Hugh Johnson and more,
11) once regarded as a white wine on par with or not better than the best from Bordeaux.
12) the favourite wine of Queen Victoria.

Like it or not, the invincible, humble, mistreated, utterly misunderstood even hated due to trends, Riesling is regaining its long lost throne as one of the finest white wine on the planet.



Regards Ray


"Raymond" in news:d74h0i$kpt$ snipped-for-privacy@reader01.singnet.com.sg... | Gentlemen,

I believe there are ladies present also.

| Which wine other than the top quality Rieslings from MSR | has the following traits? [Several creditable traits listed]

Don't forget the Nahe (e.g., Hermann Dönnhoff) and the Rheingau (Peter Jakob Kühn, Prinz, and Robert Weil).

It's good to see that word is (finally) getting around about the full capability of these wines. Sehr angenehm!

-- Max

I've been extolling the virtues of Riesling for many years now and I also frequent restaurants that have a selection of Germans on the list. If a restaurant does not have German riesling I bring my own and always offer tastes to any staff that would like to try it.

That was Hock wasn't it?

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Aw, shut up, gentlemen - the prices will go through the roof...!!!!

:-) Anders

"Anders Tørneskog" in news:9Lqle.1113$ snipped-for-privacy@juliett.dax.net... | | Aw, shut up, gentlemen - the prices will go through the roof...!!!! | | :-) Anders

Could be. Dönnhoff, I think it was, shot up in price after A Certain Wine Critic praised it, and hordes suddenly decided they needed it. I emphasize "suddenly" because as usual in these situations, the wine did not change, it had long been available, cheaper, and praised steadily by people who knew the genre. Just like a recent case, a Sauternes that has been available, and talked about, for a long, long time. Then suddenly jumped from $60 to $200 (meanwhile A Certain Merchant, whom some fellow tasters still deal with, developed "difficulties" fulfilling its pre-arrival orders committed at the lower price) -- thus imperiling that wine's presence in a planned tasting. What happened, I asked innocently. "It became a P*rker wine," I was told.

But that market's history of ignoring, for years, recommendations from people who merely know the wines argues that our discussion will cause little or no price effect, so we should rest easy in talking about them.

I couldnt agree with you more. A "best kept secret" isnt called that for nothing. I usually go after the less well known wines for just that reason. Riesling, Viognier, Gewurztraminer, and Chilean Chardonnay are my favorite whites. Merlot, Argentinan Malbec, and Pinot Noir are my favorite reds. I love wine but cannot afford everyday drinking at $20+ a bottle. We save those for special meals or occasions. Riesling is my wifes absolute favorite, and considering that only a few hundred or so cases of quality single vineyard wine from any particular producer is shipped to the US, it could easily go through the roof.

"Dönnhoff, I think it was, shot up in price after A Certain Wine Critic praised it, and hordes suddenly decided they needed it."

Indeed. I was introduced to Dönnhoff in the '98 vintage. '98-'00 prices were pretty stable- about $9 for the QbA, $13-15 for the Kabinetts, $20 for the Spätlesen (I have never bought the higher pradikats, though I eagerly taste on others' dimes). '01 prices came out a bit higher - about $1-2 per bottle. Probably based on the geek buzz and maybe beginning of dollar slide. But after P. Rovani 's report on the 2001 vintage (luckily for me, out a bit after release) what was out at those prices was quickly snapped up, and suddenly the few places that had any left had $15-18 QbA, $24 Kab, $30-40 Spätlesen. Those prices prevailed in '02, and (sometimes even higher) in '03.

The reality that one publication reaches FAR more people than any wine newsgroup or website. Now, a laudatory praise here or another site might quickly lead to a sell-out of a particular low-production wine , but not a price rise on a whole category.

I think the reality of Riesling as one of the great noble grapes has been apparent to almost anyone who's serious about wine for quite a long time. In US that reality was muted as the availability of German Rieslings was limited of the best wines - importers went for cheap Kabs and QbAs that didn't really show Riesling in the best light (imagine if you were judging Cab/Merlot by Mouton_Cadet, or Pinot Noir by some Laboure-Roi sludge).

BTW, as to original post, indeed Queen Victoria's favorite tipple was Hock (Hockheim is in Rheingau). The rest of the post could apply as easily to Nahe (Dönnhoff et al) as MSR.

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BTW, as to original post, indeed Queen Victoria's favorite tipple was Hock (Hockheim is in Rheingau).

It is Hochheim! Anders

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