TN: Riesling and Gamay

Jan 18, 2010 7 Replies

As an apertif over two nights, the 2008 Knebel Riesling Trocken QbA. Easy going, lighter styled dry Riesling, spring blossoms and a little incipent petrol. A bit short, but as an apertif a nice little wine. B-/ B



With chicken thighs over roasted vegetables (potatoes, carrots,and golden beets) and broccoli, the 2008 Coudert/Clos de la Roilette Fleurie. Somewhat one dimensional at first, but it seemed to blossom over a couple hours. Sappy red fruit, at first more raspberry, then it was more cherries accented with Cranapple™ juice. Floral and earth tones, good acids, some light tannins. Long clean finish. I didn't love at first, but last glass is at least B+/A-.


Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.  


DaleW wrote on Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:28:09 -0800 (PST):

You are posting in the US aren't you, and I wonder what you mean by "petrol"?

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My German dictionary on wine: petrol tone (engl.)

Der typische Ton wird durch den Stoff TDN (Trimethyl-Dihydronaphtalin) verursacht. Häufig tritt der Petrolton zwar beim Riesling auf (und wird von manchen Riesling-Freunden durchaus geschätzt) ist jedoch nicht auf diese Rebsorte oder auch nicht auf bestimmte Bodentypen beschränkt.

:-) Anders

sorry, for some reason petrol has become the normal geekspeak for TDN (1,2,6-trimethyl-1,2-dihydronaphthalene). Actually probably closer to kerosene/diesel than gasoline.

TDN is found in lots of grape varieties, but typically the highest concentrations are in Riesling.

To me, TDN smells of light machine oil, like "3-in One." (Is that stuff still around? It used to be sold in US hardware stores for household use -- oiling door hinges and such.)

Andy

Oui, that is what TDN stands for in french: Trois Dans uN.

Anders wrote on Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:13:28 +0100:

Now I think I've got it! I do know what light machine oils such as "3 in

1" smell like and I seem to recall Rieslings that have a subtle hint of the smell. It's amazing what small touches of inherently unlikely odors will do!

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