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Vitis 'Worden'

Several years ago we planted two vines on our property. Vitis 'Worden' and Vitis 'Frontenac'.

We've decided to try wine-making since we plenty of jam.

In refering back to the catalogue description, Vitis 'Worden' is described as "A sweet blue-black grape similar to 'Concord'. Fruit is larger and of better quality". The Vitis 'Frontenac' is described as a "red wine grape".

Although the Worden is only "similar" to Concord, the several posts here about Concord NOT being a suitable grape for wine makes me think our Worden may fall into the same jam-only camp. Do any of you real wine-makers have any experience with this grape? In my opinion it is much sweeter or less tart as compared to the Vitis 'Frontenac' fruit.

Thanks.

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Barry
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Wow. For many many years, around here, homemade wine meant Concord wine. Folks have been making it for decades. You can make wine with it. Not everyone's preference, though. Ken A.

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Ken Anderson

If you were planting a vineyard, you could find better grapes for winemaking then Concord or Worden.

But since you already have the grapes, there's absolutely no reason you can't make wine from them. It will taste different from wine made of vinifera grapes, but it is not an unpleasant taste--except to wine snobs.

vince norris

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vincent p. norris

Thanks for the input.

I've read several comments claiming a Foxy flavor in the Concord varieties. Having never tasted a fox, I'm not sure what to make of it. I would assume this is an unpleasant flavor... but still not sure what this might be.

I'll say that my 'Worden" variety of Concord is sweet with a tart skin and has something like a smokey flavor to it, compared to the other vine. A bit like the after-taste of Blueberry. Is this the "foxy" flavor? Actually, I kind of like it.

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Barry

I have always wondered which end of the "Fox" we were tasting :-)

As you may have noticed, wine tasting is a VERY subjective exercise. I personally feel one should make or drink the wine they like, and to H___ with all the wine tasting BS, which normally promotes only an already inflated price.

I hope soon to be a commercial winery. At that time I will implement the philospy of a very insightfull winey owner I have aquaintence with. His concept of "good" and "bad' wine is:

A "Bad" wine is a wine you sell out of too early.

A "Very Bad" wine is one you do not sell out of.

I find his wine sells very well :-) It it too "Foxy"? We don't really care...

Cavete Emptor!

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Fred Williams

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