Wild Grape - anyone ever make?

OK,

So I'm a bit of an experiementer, and I have Terry Garey's book on home winemaking. Inside she has a recipe for wild grape, which is more like a wild berry than a grape, but nonetheless I thought I'd give it a try.

Here is a shot of the grapes one for comparison, and one of the whole lot.

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I had enough for 1 and 1/2 gallons so I made a one gallon batch and a half batch with the rest made up with Welch's concorde concentrate.

About 3 pounds a batch, the grapes (berries) are very potent in the pigment category. Here is a look at the raw crush...

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I must say, the raw juice with sugar added reminded me a bit of the elderberry or a grapey blackberry in aroma. As fermentation went on though it got more "woodsey" and wild, not like a grape wine or like the berry wines I enjoy. I'll keep it around to see what happens, but at this point, I'm not looking to try again next year unless it really turns around. I just took it off primary today, but didn't sample it... I want to let it it settle out a bit and will taste at first rack.

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If anyone has ever tried this, I'd love to hear comments.

Thanks, Greg

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Hoss
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Interesting... Those look just like the grapes I made into wine a few weeks ago. (Mentioned in the 'A gallon of "sugar wine"' thread, Sept. 12.) I pretty much followed the Terry Garey recipe.

I had about 7 pounds. At first I was going to make just a gallon, but then I spread it out to 2 gallons by adding more sugar and water. And recently I've been thinking spreading it out to 3 gallons by adding some frozen concord concentrate. The reasons I'm thinking of doing this are:

(1) I'd rather work with a single 3-gallon carboy rather than 2 one-gallon jugs (2) I'm not sure the grapes were quite ripe enough, and so I'm wanting to lessen the influence of the grapes.

I hope yours turns out well. But even more that that, I hope mine does. :-)

Jeff Hay-Roe Sechelt, B.C.

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jeff

As fermentation went on

so let me guess, you fathom yourself a regular Henry David Thoreau in you endeavors.

I approve.

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billb

I'm less than impressed with the notion of just making alcohol out of sugar water. It can be done, but then what?

Add some sugar, okay, we all do that, but to make that the focus??? That's a horse of a different color in my book.

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billb

Thyose are riparia grapes. They are very acidic and difficult to make into a balanced wine. Early on they were used in hybrids becasue of the extreme cold tolerance of the vines (up to -60 F I think). Baco noir is a prime example of a riparia hybrid.

Many sources say to let the grapes sit on the vine until after the first frost when they will sweeten. If you try that here you will not see a grape that late because wild animals will get to them well before that.

Me I have decided to use them for jelly and jam. Breeders have given up on them too for hybridization I believe (IIRC this info is from The American Wine Society Presents Growing Wine Grapes)

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Droopy

Those look like the wild grapes we in the midwest used to make wine out of. They are very highly colored as they have dark red juice and are high in acid. We would press the juice and use a gallon of it to make 5 gallons of wine, and on some batches we would also press elderberries and use a gallon of elderberries and a gallon of the wild grape juice to make a 10 gallon batch adjusting the SG and acid to normal parameters. This would give a fairly well balanced wine, as the high tannin in the elderberries would be reduced to a more moderate level.

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A_Rough_Ashler

Hi: I've tried it and used it to acidify my hydrangeas.

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Joe Yudelson

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