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BUSINESS AND FINANCE: Last Orders: Calling Time on Pubs?

Channel: BBC 2 North 2

Date: Friday 12th December 2008 Time: 19:00 to 19:30

Up and down the UK up to five pubs are closing every day, leading many to ask if the future of this British institution is in real jeopardy. The smoking ban, cheap supermarket booze, high rents and the credit crunch have all conspired to hit the pub business hard. The Money Programme's Max Flint goes on a pub crawl across Britain to investigate the demise of the British boozer.

Reply to
Paul
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Exactly! And if, despite all the odds, they do make a success of the pub, the pubco will charge them more rent.

Reply to
KeithS

It could be summed up in a bit of a pub crawl I did round Todmorden last night

5 pubs , one owned by a microbrewery (Copper Dragon) and 4 owned by various pub cos

Hardly anyone in the pubco pubs, the Copper Dragon one about 20 in. Better selection of beer, a caring landlord and a brewery that will allow genuine guest beers.

And the irony was that quite a lot of the customers in the Copper Dragon pub wern't actually drinking beer.

Anyway there's a couple of pubs in Todmorden up for grabs - Ossett where are you????

Reply to
Paul Rigg

There's a rumour going round that they are in trouble - I've heard it twice now, but it could be the same person saying it twice.

I can't find anything to collaborate the rumour, so it could be complete bollocks, but they have just spent a massive shed load.

Reply to
Gareth Babb

In article , Gareth Babb writes

Hope not. I do like their beers, Golden Pippin in particular, though the pint of IPA I had last night was seriously good.

Reply to
Mike Tomlinson

Oh dear, I find Golden Pippin very insipid. I really don't understand what people see in it, and I know I'm not the only one.

Whereas Challenger is good.

Reply to
Gareth Babb

In article , Gareth Babb writes

Insipid is a bit unfair. It's a light beer, excellent for summer drinking and also a good session beer.

If I'm just popping in for a quick one I choose something a bit heftier.

Certainly give it a try when I spot it.

Reply to
Mike Tomlinson

It was originally brewed as an occasional beer but is now by far and away Copper Dragon's best seller. So obviously a lot of people see something in it that you don't!

Anyhow let's hope that Copper Dragon go from strength to strength. I've been on a couple of their brewery tours and am impressed by Steve Taylor's infectious enthusiasm and obvious love of his work.

Reply to
M Platting

Yes me too think its excellent. Off on a beery tour of Dewsbury and Huddersfield tomorrow. Hope I run into some though there are of course plenty of good alternatives round there.

Reply to
Paul Rigg

Golden Pippin is a permanent fixture on the bar at the Cellar Bar in Batley. This seems to be because the ladies (well, one in particular) love it.

Sodde's law that you're coming over this way, when I and some pals will be heading to your area for the same purpose! If you can arrange to be in the West Riding at 12.15, I 'll bring your 2009 CD JR along with me.

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Reply to
Mike Roebuck

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shows you what to expect in the Heavy Woollen district including Dewsbury; you should find Golden Pippin on at the Crackenedge.

Cheers,

Paul

Reply to
Paul

I think this is a bit of an oxymoron!

CD are not a micro brewery!!

Reply to
Chris de Cordova

I prefer a term like that!

Reply to
Chris de Cordova

Was that the Masons - or does CD have more than one pub in Tod now?

Reply to
gavin

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