Lindemans Framboise

Yes, very good, just don't pay the jacked up prices at pubs/bars for it. A local houston area pub charges $11 for bottle. Beverage store price was $6..............Spec's in Houston.

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I'm honestly sorry, but if Lindemans Fr. is far from bad, it is rather poor compared to Cantillon Rosé de Gambrinus, let alone the Lou Pepe Framboise from the same brewery, let alone the very rare 3 Fonteinen Framboos. If you think the above is wow...

Cheers, Joris

If you like that, you'll love the Cassis!

That's one of my favourite fruit beers as well. ;^) All we get around here is the Peche. Dammit.

Best regards, Bill

I've heard criticism of Lindemans before, that it's too sweet compared to more "authentic" lambics. But their Kriek and Framboise are beers that brought me HEAVILY into beer, and even if too sweet, perhaps that makes them a good introduction. If Lauksna had tried the Rosé de Gambrinus, she might not have found it to her liking, but having now tried Lindemans, she's likely more apt to try, and probably appreciate, others lambics, rather than being scared off by an early taste of something stranger to her palate. I think if I'd tried a Boon Marriage Parfait first, I'd not have gone into other lambics...

By the way, Lauksna, have you tried the New Glaurs Belgian Red and Raspberry Tart?

I've tried the New Glarus Red and the Raspberry Tart and they were marvelous, simply marvelous.

Best regards, Bill

PS: I also love the New Belgium Frambozen Brown Ale...

Yeah, but it's really a good deal, when compared to the $4-5 a "pint" glass of draft Miller Lite/Bud/Coors goes for compared to the price of a case of Miller Lite/Bud/Coors, isn't it? (I won't even get into box of spaghetti + jar of sauce [or homemade] vs. a dinner down at the local Italian restaurant comparison...).

Try some Gnocci.. ..you'll forget all about spaghetti.

Best regards, Bill

Have it all the time (mostly at home, bought from the Italian deli but also occasionally at "jacked up" prices at a restaurant, complete with nice bread, brusutto (sp) or oil or butter and that damned expensive "ambiance").

But, "forget spaghetti"? Never- I need it under some white clam sauce w/whole clams or Cincinnati style 5-way chili.

Lind. Fram. doesn't compare to alot of them, but I think it has its place in the world of "fruit beers". But those Lou Pepe's....freakin hell...I had the kriek (5 year old) and it was one of the singularly most intense beer experiences I've ever had. I had it with a large group of people and we all got real quiet when we got into that one, albeit many whispered "wows".

I haven't, but I will definitely be on the look out for it. I believe the one I had may not be the only one of its kind within 300 miles of here. I was shocked to find it. I am thinking up going up to Nashville sometime in the near future to visit the Flying Saucer and to stock up...

The Lou Pepe's just pretty damned amazing. I did a lambic tasting with some other pretty experienced beervolk last year in Baltimore. 16 lambics, and the Lou Pepe and the Hanssens Kriek just stuck out like giants. We disagreed on a lot, but not on those two. Wow.

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Same with me. The Lindemann's beers are excellent beers, but they're not good lambics. It's all on how you approach them. They're phenomenal dessert beers and I love them for what they are, but comparing them to Cantillon or Oude Beersel isn't a fair matchup.

Had my first 'real' gnocci at a restaurant I was trying in Center Square, PA last week. Made me realize what I had eaten in the past were miniature perrogi masquerading as gnocci.

These were lite eating little delicious clouds. Quite a revelation. Spaghetti who?

Jon

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Yeah... :-)

Tease! I can't f> I haven't, but I will definitely be on the look out for it.

They may not show up where you are.

Better to be shocked to find than NOT find it.

Flying Saucer, eh? Think I heard of that place, but never been there...

It's no longer in season. :^(

Best regards, Bill

I feel like I'm starting to sound like a broken record on this point. Lindemans framboise (or kriek, or cassis, or etc.) is not a bad beer. Or even poor.

It is a poor lambic. But it is not a poor beer.

If one views it simply as a fruit beer, or a dessert beer, it's pretty damn good. It's certainly sweeter than the typical lambic, but compared to the typical fruit beer, it's a well balanced blend of tart and fruity. Most fruit beers, at least in the States, taste like candy and are sickly sweet. I'll take one of Lindemans beers (or, even better and if they were available here, a Mort Subite, which I put in the same camp as Lindemans) over pretty much any other fruit beer any day.

-Steve

It all depends on how much weight you want to put on labels. If you labeled a Yugo an SUV, and bought it expecting an SUV, you'd be hard-pressed to say good things about it. We, the consumer, didn't label the beer. We just have expectations based on the label the brewer (or the importer) puts on it. Don't blame the consumer for having a negative view of something the brewer caused.

I'm not trying to throw gas on a fire or anything, but...

If Lindemans's has been making -- or at least branding -- lambic for a while, and there aren't too many lambic brewers out there to begin with, it's not a Yugo being labelled as an SUV... It's an SUV that is of a different style than most other SUVs, isn't it?

I have to admit, I'm not familiar with the history of Lindeman's... Is the super-sour lambic more traditional, and they came late to the party and sweetened the recipe? If so, you've got a fair cop. Heck, even if they USED to do more traditional stuff and switched up, maybe. But have they been doing this all along? If so, it's lambic, and just because other lambics aren't as sweet doesn't change that.

Besides, I thought Chapeau was the truly non-traditional lambic brewer...

Am I wrong here? All apologies if I am, but I think that Lindeman's is good beer, and good lambic by default. It's maybe not the most traditional, or the maybe it's the furthest outside the common style, but it's probably all semantics either way.