Cloned beer fails the taste test

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:46:44 +0100 Phil Stovell waved a wand and this message magically appeared:

Looks like they did the classic buy 'em out and shut 'em down thing. Soon, there'll only be a few crap big breweries.

it's probably the water. all the other ingredients can be controlled, but the microspecifics of the water are unique in different locations.

as long as it doesn't taste like budweiser, it should be alright.

brian bennett a écrit :

Mind you, water can be standardised too... other factors, such as the size and shape of the fermenting vessels, do change slightly the final product.

So it appears they failed ...

But it would appear that Gales "has failed to replicate the exact flavour of Horndean's famous HSB beer" also ....

Paul

So Fullers has made it sweeter? That's a shock! Not. All their beers are far too sweet.

Peter Peter

shape of the fermenting vessels, do change slightly

Hi Laurent, that is quite correct. I remember a good few years ago when Tetley tried to get the Warrington & Yorkshire breweries to brew a Tetley bitter that was identical from both sites. They tried everything including getting the Yorkshire brewer to Warrington & sending a tanker load of Yorkshire water to Warrington. They couldn't do it. Both beers were fine but you could tell where they came from. They solved the problem by shutting the Warrington brewery.

Chiswick isn't sweet!

As does all cloning

Nevikski

Dave Croft wrote: [...]

An excellent move on their part. Unfortunately, they didn't take the opportunity to close the Leeds brewery as well and rid the world of Tetley Bitter once and for all.

On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:16:01 +0100, Peter Corlett wrote (in message ):

Well said.

But there are still small ones starting up in the area like the one at

Cheers

James.

But it would also have got rid of the classic Tetley Mild.

Phil Stovell29/3/06 10:46 am

I had never tasted Horndean's famous HSB beer until today. I had a pint today in The Ship Inn, in the village of Wincle, Cheshire (it's on the borders of Derbys, Cheshire and Staffs) and if your wondering about the name, some local well-to-do was part of Shackleton's chilly trip to Antarctica. As we arrived at the pub, there was a high wind and very heavy hailstorm... seemed fitting somehow.

As for the beer, it was absolutely lovely. The real thing then I presume... I was very pleasantly surprised and I do hope Fullers can replicate it. I heard somewhere that the drinking water in London has passed through a human body on average nine times before you drink it these days - maybe that explains how they haven't yet managed it... yet

CR

Jings Crivens, I often stop off there when I'm working over that side of the country. Very pleasant pub.

Fullers... crap???! Must remember that next time I'm drinking ESB, Pride or 1845... and given the choice between one of the former or a pint of HSB?? No brainer...

In message , The Submarine Captain writes

That's why they burtonise water, a method of adding minerals to make the water the same, don't they use conical fermenters at Chiswick , I am not sure they used those at Horndean ?.