Bai vs Mao Chinese tea terms

May 05, 2005 154 Replies

"Yeah" - Yeah? That's the best you can enunciate? Oh you break my heart.

:"P

Danny

Be careful about not backing out when other people are jumping in. I kinda think you're okay, but when someone who's in Japan starts talking about The East, I start looking at the godhatesyanks site again.

Mydnight's instructor might be doing something similar to the Cherokee who announced in the One Feather that he'd give free dental work to teams who threw their games to his team. It's either that Cherokee are way different from any other Appalachian people (basketball is war) I've ever known, or he was joking. People don't always follow cultural cliches, but let Mydnight learn that or not there. Learning that people don't follow cultural stereotypes and that his teacher has a sense of humor may take a bit of time.

I use charcoal filters in cold water, they kill the nasty chemical aftertaste. I was wondering about boiling the water with the charcoal.

Then a jar kept in my place should be OK.

I have blocks of charcoals for my shoe closet, and on the package it says it prevents molds (not explaining how). I was wondering if the charcoal wouldn't negatively affect the *beasties* that are fermenting the tea.

Kuri

- Charcoal is not a good desiccant; will not dehumidify effectively.

- "bamboo charcoal kicks up the ion charges in the water which makes it tastier" - slightly bizarre and probably meaningless from a scientific perspective.

- " I use charcoal filters in cold water, they kill the nasty chemical aftertaste. I was wondering about boiling the water with the charcoal." - Boiling will cause unpleasant chemicals to desorb from the charcoal, putting them back into the water. Best to use on cold water, and remove charcoal before heating. In fact, some activated charcoals (there are many types) can be reactivated by boiling in water - like reactivating a desiccant by baking.

DM

Last Words...

Anyone still interested in the meaning in Mao's name, or a glimpse into the Chinese system of names, here's a book that you can borrow from your library:

Mao : A Life, by Philip Short

UK publisher: John Murray, ISBN: 0719566762

US publishers: Owl Books, reprint 2001, ISBN: 0805066381 Henry Colt & Company, Inc, ISBN: 0805031154

Heh.

Danny Exit, persued by a bear.

I have been traveling and working during this priceless exchange and missed these peals of Rebecca's wisdom. I am willing to prove the provable (my travel and work in ex-military formerly closed territories in China) of what I was claiming with plane tickets, original work agreements, official films of local TV stations (featuring yours truly) about opening of our offices in rural towns just south of Inner Mongolia and other things. But she has to step up to the plate and put her money where her mouth is. We both shell send a money order for say $5,000 to Michael Plant, Lew or DogMa (or any other well known member of the group) and let him or some other group of judges decide if I ever lied about my travel and work in China. The winning side will gets the money. Until she does that, her baseless accusations remain what they are - empty barkings. But as Turks say "It khurer, karavan kecher" - "The bitch barks, but the caravan goes". So be it in our case too.

Certainly I cannot prove what happened almost 30 years ago on the shores of Olenek river in Northern Siberia. And I do not intend to. This was my personal experience and I do not give a flying puer cake if some self-absorbed, yet another "professor" from CUNY believes me or not. But not believing me is one thing and calling me a liar - another. Notice how this "teacher of English" and an American, I presume, throws away ever so easily the time honored Western tradition of presuming innocence until proven guilty. She calls me a liar "until proven otherwise"! She feels that she has a right to call a person a liar and demand that the only way she would retract from that accusation if I "prove" myself to be right? No, lady, you will have to risk some money on the table if you want proof. Until you do that, your empty accusations only show others what you are made of. I leave it to the public on this forum to judge why she would be so angry at someone who she never met in her life? May be some of my remarks on her ridiculous posts had something to do with it? But there were several posters who ridiculed her "educated" opinion and she never attacked them... Eureka! May be she had a Russian boyfriend who run away from her self-absorbed attitude? That would at least explain her awful, louty Russian.

I think that she does have some alternative motives (like assuming in her other post that I am rich, which I guess in CUNY's world is the biggest sin in the universe). I have to disappoint her - I am not rich (moneywise) at all - by any standards (unfortunately). However I lived a very rich life filled with love, friendship, adventures and love again. And I think I have done it honorably. I made a lot of lifetime friends (God bless them) and certainly some envious enemies, (God bless them too). And that is why all I feel toward the poor "linguist" is a deep sense of pity.

Sasha.

I have no doubt that you have more money than sense.

I don't believe you. Live with it. I don't want to meet you, don't want to play games with you.

I don't care if you aren't lying, either. It sure sounds like bullshit to me.

I don't usually speak up in flame wars. I like to form my own opinion, and keep it to myself while I watch the circus. I just had to this time. Just what does the word 'Plonk' mean in this post? It brings to mind two images:

1 A person 'plonking' down a file on a desk in front of another person, crossing their arms infront of their chest, glaring, and barely keeping themselves from sticking out their tounge. 2 A person collapsing (plonking) into a chair in a huff, glaring, and barely keeping themselves from sticking out their tongue. I realise that this is probobly not what was intended, so please correct me so I can go back to enjoying the flames.

"Plonk" in USENET lingo usually means that a person after saying some words returns (plonks) into whatever parallel universe he or she popped out from to say these words. Usually indicated that an author is not interested in a response and won't wait or check for it. Like a child that shouted an insult and closed his eyes and ears after that not to hear anything back and therefore have the last word. However PLONK may be used by a grown up too, when it is used to just say a side comment that most likely won't require an answer, or just without getting into the substance too deep. But your number 1 suggestion may also be a case.

Sasha.

The sound a flamer makes when he hit the bottom of a killfile.

I believe some of what Alex claims for himself, just not more than half of it.

Have no interest in figuring out which half.

Jim on Mike Petro is annoying, but Jim has some interesting and original comments to make about being a tea forager (I've assumed for some of the same reasons I do the same). I don't have more than $30 at a time to spend on tea. Perhaps I'm envious of people who have money to spend on pricer teas -- and I do find it annoying when they don't appear to understand the teas they have the money to buy, sort of like the people who can afford $2,000+ bicycles who don't race or tour.

It is the sound of a newbie being dropped into a killfile. Original usage was in talk.bizarre in the late 1980s but it seems to have spread over the years.

--scott

Hi Marlene,

In USENET netiquette PLONK is an acronym used when one poster chooses to "ignore" another persons posts. In older Unix based newsreaders it was called a "killfile" which meant that anything sent to the killfile was automatically deleted before the reader ever had a chance to see it. You could send a post to the killfile based on any number of different criteria, the most common one being a specific person in the "From" field but it could also be a keyword in the subject or body of the message etc. In modern Windows based newsreaders you can often do it by right-clicking a poster and selecting "Ignore" and then you will not (theoretically) see any posts sent by that person again. It usually only works with dedicated newsreader programs, if you use Google or some other web based reader you will not readily see this option.

Mike

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Hi Marlene,

In USENET netiquette PLONK is an acronym used when one poster chooses to "ignore" another persons posts. In older Unix based newsreaders it was called a "killfile" which meant that anything sent to the killfile was automatically deleted before the reader even had a chance to see it. You could send a post to the killfile based on any number of different criteria, the most common one being a specific person in the "From" field but it could also be a keyword in the subject or body of the message etc. In modern Windows based newsreaders you can often do it by right-clicking a poster and selecting "Ignore" and then you will not (theoretically) see any posts sent by that person again. It usually only works with dedicated newsreader programs, if you use Google or some other web based reader you will not readily see this option.

Mike

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Mac and Unix users have better newsreaders than most of those commonly available for Windows users, but I think Agent can filter on topic, xref headers, and such. I use MT-NewsWatcher for Mac which can filter on all sorts of things, including threads, from lines, crossposts, without having to write regular expressions.

Yes, I use agent myself and it can do most of the stuff the Xreaders can do. Albeit you are right in that you might have to write an expression or two to thoroughly filter some stuff.

Mike Mike Petro

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