Europe to crack down on ‘passive drinking’, says leaked report

May 27, 2006 11 Replies

Europe to crack down on ‘passive drinking’, says leaked report



Our reporter in Brussels reveals that EC officials are plotting to make drinking as socially unacceptable as smoking.



Friday 26 May 2006, Bruno Waterfield



The campaigns to combat the effects of ‘passive smoking’ are widely credited for Europe’s growing number of smoking bans. Now alcohol is in the sights of the public health lobbyists, and they have invented the concept of ‘passive drinking’ as their killer argument.



I have seen a leaked draft report for the European Commission, which is due to be published some time in June. It makes claims about the high environmental or social toll of alcohol, the ‘harm done by someone else’s drinking’. The report is likely to inform proposals for a European Union alcohol strategy later this year.



Dr Peter Anderson, the report’s lead author, who has a background in the World Health Organisation (WHO) and plays a leading role in Tobacco Free Initiative Europe, tells me that the concept of social harm takes the alcohol debate beyond the traditional limits of individual choice and addiction. ‘You can make the argument that what an individual drinks is up to them, provided they understand what they are doing and bearing in mind that alcohol is a dependency-producing drug…. But when you talk about harm to others then that is a societal concern and justification for doing something about it. I think that is an important argument. If there was not harm to others then the argument gets a little less powerful’ (1).



The draft report doesn’t mince its words when it comes to estimating the social harms of alcohol. ‘The total tangible cost of alcohol to EU society in 2003 was estimated to be €125bn (€79bn-€220bn), equivalent to



1.3 per cent GDP, and which is roughly the same value as that found recently for tobacco.’ (2) The report further highlights the broader social cost of drinking, with the proviso that ‘these estimates are subject to a wide margin of error, [and] they are likely to be an underestimate of the true gross social cost of alcohol’. continued ...


= = = = = Comment: Just in case there are any jokers out there who doubt this:



1) Prof. Nutt (member of the ACMD) recently said that alcohol was more dangerous than Ecstasy. Note that Ecstasy is a class A drug.


2) In giving evidence before a parliamentary committee Prof. Rawlins (ACMD Chairman) said that, if it were to be an illegal drug, alcohol would be classed on the borderline between class A and B.



search for "Q127" and read down to Q129.



Note 2: ACMD = "Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs" - the government committee responsible for deciding upon the classifications of illegal drugs.



Just a few years ago smoking was the norm and fully accepted except by a few eccentrics.

If you actually read the article - which I guess you didn't (hence the top post) - you'll discover that these are not my views nor even those of the article's writer (Waterfield).

This is what the safety fanatics at the European Commission are talking about. By all means live your life in ignorance. You are under no obligation to be aware of what's happening in the world - until it hits you were you weren't expecting it. No one made you read anything.

You can prove anything with statistics.

90% of teetotal scientists think that moderate drinking is moderately harmful.

Well Jas if the link to the article worked, I would have read it, unfortunately it didn't, besides from your remarks, you are offensive and lacking in social skills. Besides why post on a news link for food and wine. This is a place for those who enjoy food and wine to exchange tasting notes, experiences, and promote the enjoyment of food and wine.

Does that mean that the next time I visit France and order a diet Coke at MacDonalds they won't serve me a Kronenberg instead?

Tom S

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I didn't twist your arm to make you read this.

If you think the news is irrelevant then just ignore it.

Apologies for the broken link. They have rejigged their site design. It'e possible that they changed it since first visited. Here is the working link:

The working link is here:

Apologies for the broken link. They have rejigged their site design. It's possible that they changed it since I visited.

And this is why this EU scare story will never go anywhere. Done in moderation drinking can actually have a beneficial effect on the consumer's health and no effect whatsoever on others. With smoking, on the other hand, even small amounts of smoke are injurious to the health of the smoker and those around him.

No comparison at all.

Bob

Whee have you gained your knowledge of the injuries caused by small amounts of smoke? The lungs are made to be self healing a bit of smoke will not do any harm at all.

Wrong.

Most tobacco smokers are addicts, as opposed to most alcohol users that are not addicted. But most pot smokers on the other hand are not addicts and the damage inflicted by smoking pot is also relatively minor in comparison to tobacco (or alcohol for that matter).

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