NYT article on wines of the Languedoc

Sep 07, 2005 7 Replies

Today's NY Times contains an article by Eric Asimov about the wines of the Languedoc. It's not terribly profound, although generally factually correct (exception: AFAIK carignan is not an allowed varietal in the S. Rhone, unless one includes Costières de Nîmes/Bouche du Rhone). In their tasting, the top wines are from estates I don't know well (Ch. de Lascaux, Mas de Chimères, Jean-Michel Alquier, Ch. Belles Eaux) and ones I do know (Mas Jullien, Ch. de Lancyre). Of no great surprise is that the two top wines are brought in by Kermit Lynch and Louis/Dressner, and of particular worry to Dale W will be their designation of the '04 Iche 'Les Heretiques' as a "Best Buy." So much for NYC stocks of it... ;-)



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Mark Lipton


Hey, didn't I just post this? Anyway, you're right, I'm pissed!

But I do think that Carignan is allowed in Cotes du Rhone, though not in CdP.

CdP, alias Chato9 = Grenache, Syrah, Mourvèdre, Cinsault, Muscardin, Counoise, Clairette, Bourboulenc, Picpoul, Roussanne, Terret Noir, Picardan, Vaccarese

Put all that on a label... ;-)

And don't forget that "hidden" 14th cepage: Grenache blanc. Do you know if Dale's right about Carignan in CdR?

Mark Lipton

I saw your post on WLDG while checking the update of the Katrina thread, and tried to reply, but no joy: its buggy SQL code crapped out on me. I really *hate* that forum software, for this and other reasons. And no HTTP forum that I've yet seen matches newsreaders for intelligent threading (grumble grumble). Hey, I may yet make "curmudgeon" if I keep this up! :)

Interesting point -- I'll check with my sources when I get the chance (2006 perhaps)

Mark Lipton

CdR is typically Grenache, Carignan and Cinsault (max 30% Carignan)

] On 7 Sep 2005 13:18:53 -0700, "DaleW" wrote: ] ] >But I do think that Carignan is allowed in Cotes du Rhone ] ] CdR is typically Grenache, Carignan and Cinsault (max 30% Carignan) ]

Hi,

I can certainly confirm that carignan is allowed to 30% max in generic CdR, and 20% max in CdR villages, including for example Rasteau etc. However in the ex-villages (e.g. Gigondas, Vacqueyras) it is not allowed.

Honestly I don't think it would be typical to find carignan in generic CdR. I'm sure there are many examples either way.

-E

Thanks for the info, guys. I'll have to retract my criticism of Mr. Asimov's fact checking.

Mark Lipton

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