Re: TN: moderately priced Australian Riesling

What about riesling-like varieties? The only good

> Welschrieslings I have ever had were Austrian and botrytized.

Welschriesling is not "riesling-like", just as Tocai and Pinot Gris (formerly aka Tokay d'Alsace) are not "Tokaj-like".

M.

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Michael Pronay
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It shares 8 letters in the correct order :-)))

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Mike Tommasi

The word "riesling" is not a grape variety ... and this is not a pipe.

;)

Cheers

Nils

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren

Nils wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:19:54 GMT:

This may be an attempt that I am missing to do a Magritte but others would disagree with you about "riesling" not being a grape variety, for example,

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James Silverton
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Anders Tørneskog

Obviously you are right - it is a Magritte - the word "riesling" is not a grape variety, while riesling is ... and the picture of a piep is not a pipe, nor is the word pipe ... seriously, Welschriesling has nothing or very little to do with riesling. The suffix Welsch- means "foreign" (cognate with Wales, and the wal- in walnut), though today very archaic.

In Germany the Pinot meunier is sometimes called Schwarzriesling, BTW, to add to the confusion.

HTH

Cheers

Nils

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren

I found one instance of "riesling italien" (cf riesling italico in Italian). Apart from that, only Welschriesling. I doubt there are more than very small plantings of Welschriesling in France ...

Cheers

Nils

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren

The one or two times I heard the grape name in France, the speakers used the Italian name.

M.

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Michael Pronay

^^^^^^^^^^^

Genetically spoken: nothing, zilch, nada.

M.

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Michael Pronay

Er, they are both v. vinifera., so they must have quite a bit in common. :-)

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Mike Tommasi

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