Re: TN: moderately priced Australian Riesling

It shares 8 letters in the correct order :-)))

The word "riesling" is not a grape variety ... and this is not a pipe.

;)

Cheers

Nils

Nils wrote on Sun, 08 Feb 2009 16:19:54 GMT:

This may be an attempt that I am missing to do a Magritte but others would disagree with you about "riesling" not being a grape variety, for example,

Yeah, it said: Riesling name has been tarnished by the attachment of its name to other white varietals (Grey Riesling--aka Chaucé Gris--, Walschriesling--aka Italian Riesling--, and Missouri Riesling) that are of far lesser quality and genetically unrelated to the true Riesling.

Riesling is a grape variety, of course, the others too, in their way.

Anders

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Obviously you are right - it is a Magritte - the word "riesling" is not a grape variety, while riesling is ... and the picture of a piep is not a pipe, nor is the word pipe ... seriously, Welschriesling has nothing or very little to do with riesling. The suffix Welsch- means "foreign" (cognate with Wales, and the wal- in walnut), though today very archaic.

In Germany the Pinot meunier is sometimes called Schwarzriesling, BTW, to add to the confusion.

HTH

Cheers

Nils

Well, there is no grape that is not one variety or another! :)

Does anyone know what the French for Walschriesling is?

-E

I found one instance of "riesling italien" (cf riesling italico in Italian). Apart from that, only Welschriesling. I doubt there are more than very small plantings of Welschriesling in France ...

Cheers

Nils

The one or two times I heard the grape name in France, the speakers used the Italian name.

M.

^^^^^^^^^^^

Genetically spoken: nothing, zilch, nada.

M.

Er, they are both v. vinifera., so they must have quite a bit in common. :-)