Stelvin - another position ...

Hello, Just came back from town - ouple of errands to run in Malmo, then off to Copenhagen for a v short tasting of Dom Perignon 1999 (turned out nice again). SOrt of a point tasting - I mean, a horizontal crosses a vertical (one vintage, one brand), gotta be a point, right? Anyway. When we returned from Oz in Septembner, we brought along a number of bottles - many of them with stelvin. Most of them, I think. Don't keep tabs (yet) but I think that 7 out of 6 were under stelvin. Excepting the Verdelho from Ernest Hill, which we drank last week, most of these bottles are still down in our cellar and will remain there for at least e few years.

TOday, I went into the Systembolaget in Malmo, bought two bottles of Gobelsburg Riesling 2006 from Austria (Kamptal) - also under stelvin. One for early drinking (tonight, even), and one to keep.

In COpenhagen, after sipping my Dompa (which is what the affluent caste calls Dom Perignon in Sweden), I selected 7 bottles from Mantelassi (mostly for keeping a year or so), and two bottles from Tasmania - Pinot Noir and Gris respectively. These, too, were under stelvin.

Carrying my haul into my increasingly crowded cellar, I realised that the nice racks I bought a few months back are not suited for stelvins - they are supposed to stand up, right?

So, all of a sudden, not only is my cellar crowded, it is also supposed to hold bottles oriented in another position (hence the clever pun in the title).

Know what? The bottles standing up don't look as nice and orderly as the ones lying down. They, in fact, look a lot like old liquor bottles of which we have drunk once or twice and which now stand looking forlorn on a shelf in the cellar.

SO tell me, gentlemen and ladies all, how many stelvin bottles do YU have in your cellar? And are they pleasing to your eye? I make my count 14, at the moment. And, no, they are not.

Cheers

Nils

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren
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Are they? Why? Didn't think it mattered. Mine lie down like all my other self-respecting wine bottles.

Reply to
Steve Slatcher

Maybe that's the secret to the way stelvin works. There's always a spare bottle!

Jose

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Jose

"Steve Slatcher" skrev i meddelandet news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Hmmmm ... read it somewhere. They should stand up, else maybe the capsule sprang a leak, or similar. You et yours lie down, then? You have a lot? You have had some of them a long time?

Cheers

Nils

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren

in article WHgNh.37038$ snipped-for-privacy@newsb.telia.net, Nils Gustaf Lindgren at snipped-for-privacy@NOTAVALIDADRESS.se wrote on 3/24/07 1:26 PM:

Based on observation and my own logic I would suggest that stelvins don't NEED to lie down (no benefit) but that there's no particular reason NOT to lie them down. I've really never heard of or seen any leakage issues. The whole thing seems to be based on the statistic that 95%+ of all wine is consumed within a few weeks of purchase, so leakage over time may or may not become an issue.

Now...... have you seen the glass stopper closures that are beginning to appear? Just when you thought there were just two types of closure.... up comes a third.

Reply to
Midlife

From the FAQ on the Stelvin website: "Can I store my bottles on their side ? Yes. Upright, on its side or with the neck facing downwards, the bottle can be stored and transported in all positions."

Yes, mine, lie horizontally. No, I don't have many. All my bottles are hidden behind a Liebherr door so aesthetics don't matter, but when I get more bottles I might experiment storing them vertically.

A critical factor is that you need to avoid knocking stelvin caps. The alluminium and plastic sealis a lot les forgiving than cork.

Reply to
Steve Slatcher

Vino-Lok? They FEEL very nice, but I've no idea how good they are for teh wine. The actual seal comes from a plastic ring BTW.

Where have you been? Eventually you may see bottles with various types of plastic cork too ;)

More seriously, there are also the newish Diam-style closures.

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Steve Slatcher

"Steve Slatcher" skrev i meddelandet news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Well, THEY should know.

Entering my cellar entails negociating a narrow passage filled with all those things that you cannot find room for anywhere else, such as, a plastic Xmas tree, that big cast iron pot, childrens book of 1970s vintage, and pails containing paint from a restoration of the bedrooms in the late 1980s (you never know when you'll need a dab of paint).

So, the esthetics is purely for my own pleasure.

That is a very important memento.

My friend the GWI mentioned that another was that, simply, turning from cork to stelvin meant a conisderbale investment for the wine producer - using plastic corks you could go on using the old equipment. I don't know any statistics, but I have noticed that you are very much more likely to find a plastic cork in the low-cost Southern French ("till to swill in 20 minutes") wines than a stelvin.

Cheers

Nils

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Nils Gustaf Lindgren

in article snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, Steve Slatcher at snipped-for-privacy@pobox.com wrote on 3/24/07 11:34 PM:

Plastic??? You think so??? H-m-m-m-m.

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Midlife

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