sweet wine

hi can anyone please suggest a red wine which is more sweet than bitter

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Varghese
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Where?

Timbooktoo, Quebec, Tristan da Cunha, Mexico City, Moscow, Peking, Sidney, Hamburg, Cape Town?

Have you ever heard that there's more than one coutry or city on this planet?

M.

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Michael Pronay

Judging by his email address Varghese seems to be located in India.

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Steve Slatcher

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Varghese

I don't know how sweet you want the red wine to be. Port, or Oporto as it is called today, is perhaps the best known sweet red wine around the world. I am sure the British had it when they were in India, so it likely is well known there and still can be had. It comes in inexpensive basic grades to very expensive vintage year dated grades that can be very old. The better quality of vintage port usually requires considerable age to reduce excess tannins. The undated Ruby and Tawny grades usually are drinkable when bought. However Port is a strong, fortified, and rather sweet wine, so most people drink it after a meal. It would be too powerful to be a good match for many foods.

The Italians make some red and pink wines that range from slightly to quite sweet. Lambrusco is slightly sparkling and comes in many versions ranging from dry to sweet and from white, to pink to red. The more common type distributed over much of the world is a bit sweet and dark pink to red. The better grades often can be more difficult to find in some countries. If you find some Lambrusco in India, there are those here who likely can tell you about it if you mention the information given on the label.

There are a few German wines from Assmannshausen in Germany made from Spatburgunder(German name for Pinot Noir). In most years these are only very pale pink, but in very ripe years they can be more of the red color of Burgundy. In a few very ripe years late harvest wines can be made that have a little to much sweetness. These usually would be labeled auslese, but sometimes a spatlese might be a bit sweet. The best of these late harvest wines tend to be difficult to find and expensive, at least in the US. Also their unusual taste does not please everyone. You likely would have to search for fine wine dealers in major cities in most countries to find them

Greece has long exported Mavrodaphne over much of the world. It is a sweet, red, fortified wine about as strong as Port. Much of it is of fairly commercial grade, but likely better examples now can be found since the quality of some Greek wines on the export market has been improved in recent years. I have not had any for at least 20 years, so I am not in a position to suggest one now being sold.

Sweet red wines have long been made and popular in Central and Eastern Europe. Many were and still are rather commercial and not to the taste of many in Western Europe. They were quite popular in old Russia and in the USSR. I do not know these wines well enough to suggest anything. If you find one in India, if you post the label information here, someone might be able to tell you more about it. Some who post here from time to time live in Central Europe.

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Michael Pronay wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@pronay.com:

The fact that he was sending form a .in address should have given YOU a clue. There's no need to be rude to people.

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mrorwell

Whereas we need to be rude to hypocrites like you, who leave no intentional clues about their whereabouts, right? Varghese realized his mistake and apologized; now we're waiting for YOUR apology.

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Patok

Alas, From: addresses on newsgroups (and email) are user-supplied and easily forged. One should always be wary of assuming too much on the basis of such a suspect datum. Also, keep in mind that Michael's native tongue is German and his tone, which to you seemed rude, may have been an unintentional consequence of his expressing himself in a second language.

Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton

Patok wrote in news:ff17e3$bgn$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org:

intentional clues about their whereabouts, right? Varghese realized his mistake and apologized; now we're waiting for YOUR apology.

He apologized for an unintentional omission of information. You were intentionally rude.

You have more to apologize for than does he.

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mrorwell

Mark Lipton wrote in news:ff19jp$g5e$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org:

easily forged. One should always be wary of assuming too much on the basis of such a suspect datum.

So lack of an identifiable location is sufficient grounds for rudeness? Or is that reserved for new posters?

Since wine is enjoyed around the world, it's probably safe to assume that there are as many, if not more, non english speaking readers as those to whom english is a first language.

Michael may have a good command of english as a second language... that does not mean that other posters do. Attacking someone because their first post isn't perfectly clear is a terrible way to encourage participation.

which to you seemed rude, may have been an unintentional consequence of his expressing himself in a second language.

I don't think that "Timbooktoo, Quebec, Tristan da Cunha, Mexico City, Moscow, Peking, Sidney, Hamburg, Cape Town? Have you ever heard that there's more than one coutry or city on this planet?" can be interpreted as anything but intentionally rude, no matter what language (first or second) a person speaks.

Michael may rant at me some more, and you can defend him all you like... but his initial reply was NOT friendly or even neutral in any fashion. Rudeness on the newsgroups is a problem that rivals spam. You can filter spam, but you can't filter for rudeness... all you can do is ignore it when it's directed toward you.

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mrorwell

"Varghese" skrev i melding news:fesqk2$e6e$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org...

I'll take it that you may not want Port, which is a dessert wine. The same goes for Madeira and Marsala and quite a few others.

Eastern European reds used to be quite sweet. The Greek Mavrodaphne too. And Adom Atic from Israel is another example. It is also fairly common to find that it is the cheaper bottles from these countries that are sweet. Another possibility is red German wine. Look for the term 'Auslese' on the label and select bottles with a low degree of alcohol (10-11%) (meaning that not all sugar has been spent in making the wine).

I would not expect that wine is easy to find in India, however :-)

Anders

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Anders Tørneskog

Because you were intentionally rude to Michael first. Tit for tat.

He doesn't have to apologize, you do. After you do, I'll apologize to you. Deal?

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Patok

Patok wrote in news:ffb800$pdm$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org:

No. My post to Michael pointed out that his language toward the original poster was rude. I may have been blunt and mildly sarcastic, but I was not rude.

Being blunt in pointing out rudeness requires no apology from me.

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mrorwell

No. In my post I was matching your tone. If you perceive it as rude, that's because your tone was rude too, and you should apologize first. If you consider your tone "blunt and mildly sarcastic" then so is mine, and I have nothing to apologize for.

Except that Michael's post was not rude, yours was. Clearly we disagree on what rude is, in this case.

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Patok

Patok wrote in news:ffr11m$c0$ snipped-for-privacy@aioe.org:

My post to him:

I called his behavior rude.

Your first post to me:

intentional clues about their whereabouts, right?

You attacked me as a hypocrite.

One side, criticism of behavior... the other side, personal insults.

If that's how you "match" someone else's tone, you probably get in to a lot of heated arguements.

But not here, and not with me. I've made my point as I see it. I have no need to trade words with someone who thinks that sarcasm and an ad hominem attack are the same thing.

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