LS
Can somebody provide me with a list of about 5-10 Piemontese top-wineproducers who make a traditional Barolo?
What are exactly the criteria to call a barolo a "traditional barolo"?
thnx for your help.
ralph
LS
Can somebody provide me with a list of about 5-10 Piemontese top-wineproducers who make a traditional Barolo?
What are exactly the criteria to call a barolo a "traditional barolo"?
thnx for your help.
ralph
Bartolo Mascarello is usually first name that comes to mind. Also G. Mascarello, Marcarini. Not quite as traditional- Bruno Giacosa, the Conternos (actually one Conternos is ultra-traditionalist, but I get them confused).
Long macerations, no barrique are the basics.
Others can answer better.
Dale
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Giovanni Conterno of Giacomo Conterno, Eiunudi, Oddero, Borgogno, F.Rinaldi, Scarpa & the the Mascarellos off the top of my head.
Hi Joe:
Thanks for clarifying which Conterno! Borgogno is a good catch, should have thought of that. I'd agree that Oddero is traditional, just not sure re top (would love to be wrong, as I have some). Einaudi normale is pretty traditional, but the Costa Grimaldi is pretty new-wavish.
Hope your new married life is treating you well! Dale
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Ciò che ha detto Joe Beppe Rosenberg ( snipped-for-privacy@comcast.net) è così interessante, che devo dire la mia:
Among traditionalists add also Massolino, Elvio Cogno, Cappellano. They are fundamentalists, but other producers (Marchesi di Barolo, Fontanafredda, Vietti) make both traditional and new wave Barolo. Traditional Barolo is based on a very long maceration (with the grapes skin submerged into the must) that can last two months in a quasi static environment. This introduces a huge amounts of tannins, that only a very long stay into a big barrel can tame properly, precipitating a part of them.
New wave Barolo is based on a fast (approx. a week) maceration into a rotary vat. This determines a dissolution of the colouring substances of the skin, without extracting tannins from the seeds. The subsequent stay into the barriques stabilizes these substances binding them with wood tannins.
Now taste them and make your choice!!!
Luk
the late Sheldon Wasserman is his Italy's Noble Red Grapes talks about Barolo/Barbaresco maceration times by producer but this book is now almost
15 years old as the second edition was published in 1991. So some of the information is outdated. But what Wasserman wrote with Renato Ratti's help about the Langhe is still educational. At the time I visited Ratti and met Sheldon in 1985, the Currados of Vietti, the Cerettos, Ratti, Aldo Conterno were the in the vanguard of modernism---now there is a vast middle group who've shortened maceration times and changed barrels as well as the Tradtionalists and super-modern producers. I haven't kept up on who'se who but probably the folks I mentioned above now are in the middle group with most of DeGrazias and Winebow's producers leading the avante-gard.Thank you so much, you guys! you were really helpfull to me in this case!
Best regards from, Ralph
Yes they were, now how about the same for Brunello ..Chris
Luk, I definately made my choice. I have quite a colelction of Barolo's, both new style as old style. I love old style!
New style I mainly have, Oddero Vigna Rionda (this is quite newesh to me), Barolo Ceretto from Germano Ettore, Barolo Sori Ginestra from Conterno Fantino and Barolo Cerequio from Michele Chiarlo (this one is more towards traditional style...)
Old style I have, Barolo from Bartolo Mascarello, Barolo Monprivato from Giuseppe Mascarello, Barolo Monfortino (1974, 1982) en Cascina Francia (82 and 85) from Giacomo COnterno. But....This was the only list of traditional producers I knew...
That's is why I posted this question. I will visit Piemont in January with my car to make sure that I can ship some wine back home
So, now I know where to go for tasting and buying in the Alba region!
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