what do oz wine consumers want?

A wine trade friend, Brian Miller, sent me this list of what he reckons wine consumers want: White wines that taste fresh; Pinot Noir that does not turn brown; Cabernet Sauvignon that is ripe; Sauvignon Blanc that tastes like New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc; Wines with minimal perceived chemical manipulation; Wine that does not taste salty; Wine that does not prematurely oxidise; Chardonnay that is complex in flavour; Shiraz of maximum flavour but with lower alcohol; Wine that does not taste corked.

To his list I added: Chardonnay that does not taste of oak juice; Bottle labels that are legible; Back labels that are accurately descriptive; Dry wines without excessive residual sugar; Oaked chardonnay with a shelf life longer than five years; Wines that do not use or contain animal products; Cellar door facilities and staff that do not remind visitors of a mobile phone sales consultancy; Wine that is made by winemakers rather than accountants.

Others?

Cheers! Martin

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Martin Field
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Martin, While I cannot pretend to speak for Oz consumers, I would certainly add to any such list: wines that are priced in accord with their quality and record of performance. No doubt that the popularity of Kiwi Sauvignons owes much to their vibrant flavors, but their low prices in the world market also has played a major role in their growing popularity (and, ironically, has led to an escalation of their prices).

Another addition: wine that complements food, by which I mean wine that isn't flabby, overoaked, overly alcoholic or badly out of balance.

Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton

Hello Everyone,

Well speaking from someone who is not a complete beginner but certainly nowhere near expert, but has a lot of friends who are "average wine drinkers" (and increasingly I bore them to death with my increasing wine-nerdery) I might compose a bit of a list.

And all assuming of course the label makers get within a mile of the truth!

I can sum up pretty much all the average wine drinkers I know by saying fruity white and sweeter reds for the ladies, and fruity white (still dryer than the ladies) and fat fruit forward reds for the guys.

So I think in most cases a huge flavour "wow" factor is what average wine consumers want. So jammy high alcohol shiraz and fruit bowl whites are still in high demand.

Labels that tell you what the wine "tastes" like. A lot of ppl simply have no idea what any wine should theoretically taste like, so get put off when they have say a dry chardonnay when in fact they want the typical "fruity white". I do however get sick of every chardonnay in Australia having "tropical fruit flavours of lychee and passionfruit".

Labels that give you cellaring advice. This is a bit of an annoyance to me, you go into a wine shop and see something you don't know that has survived for a lot longer than its newer vintages, say a '99 when there are 2002-2005 on the shelf. And you think "Well it might be already dead, or is it in fact better with more time on it?"

Food matching advice. And preferably more than one dish you've never heard of (Cuban braised crittergen) or some vague marketting phrase like "For outdoor living". Even someone who knows a bit about food/wine matching, it can be difficult to make a match without having had the wine before and knowing exactly what it tastes like.

Labels that give you any sort of helpful advice. Minimalist labels may be trendy, but they don't help anyone. Giving advice on temperature to serve *how long to decant* etc is always a bonus I think.

An impossibility, but wines that are truly "worth" what you pay for. So no jacking up the price $10+ just for the sake of it. There are lots of overpriced examples in the Australian market. True everywhere I guess. You charge what you can get.

More "reviews" on wine labels. So say: "Halliday calls this wine "very pleasant easy drinking" with a score of 93". A lot of ppl feed off other's impressions, which is both good and bad, but for a beginner it's a lot of help.

Most ppl who go to buy wine are completey clueless, so any usefull help and not marketting hype goes a long way.

That's all I can think of at the moment. People just want easy drinking no thinking with some helpful advice along the way. If it's Chateau Cardboard and ppl say "ooo, that's nice", it says it's a dry table red, it says to drink now don't cellar, to have it with pasta with a tomato based sauce like bolognase and some wine reviewer gave it a 9/10, that's all and more your average wine drinker wants I think.

Mat.

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Mat

Hi Martin,

I knew I was "just the average wine drinker" before I read your list and must admit that almost all your points have ME (and most Average Joes imho) in mind.

Sometimes I feel a bit ashamed to like the "jammy high alcohol shiraz and fruit bowl white" type wines. But even the most experienced members in this ng say it's all about what YOU like and not what others say you should like.

Your comments re info on the label is pretty much on (for us average types) I have found myself buying a wine for the 92 or the description on the label that seems to be all that I would ever want in a wine- only to find it's not what _I_ like. One who wants to learn soon realizes that they have to be somewhat discerning about info presented on the bottle.

Anyways ramblerambleramble... loved you post

Larry

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