What is wrong with this wine?

Jul 31, 2004 13 Replies

Hello; Yesterday, with lamb chops and grilled veggies, we decided to open a Croze-Hermitage from Jaboulet, Le Jalet 2000. According to Hugh Johnsson, depending on quality, the CH of 2000 should either be in their prime or just beginning to drink well, so we thought it would be OK. When Xina opened the bottle, the first smell that greeted her was of SO2, quite unpleasant, but, thought we, this may clear up with aeration. The wine was decanted for mebbe 45 minutes. WHen we next poured it into our nice big quality red wine glass (SEK 95 [1] for a pack of six at IKEA), it stilled smelt unpleasant. Burnt rubber, possibly, but I´ve tasted Cote-Roti w Mike Tommassi which good guy Mike told me had this character, and this smelt nothing like it. Something doggedly, unpleasantly animal about it - not the smoked cold cuts I tend to associate with Syrah. On palate, acidity was near to aggressive, fruit was dead. The wine was also slightly turbid.



Needless to say, this wine went back inot the bottle for possible use in a sauce, or daub, and a bottle of Chateau Le Cheap vaguely Bordeaux (Malesan) was procured and imbibed without prejudice.



Now, my question is, can anyone tell me what has gone wrong with this wine? Didn´t smell corked - we are quite sensitive to TBA, particularly Xina - but I do not for a moment believe that this is the way it should be.



Cheers, and TIA



Nils Gustaf [1]



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Tom Stevenson in the New Sotheby's Wine Encyclopaedia says

"Burnt Rubber. This is a serious wine fault created by the reaction between ethyl alcohol and hydrogen sulphide, another wine fault, which produces a foul-smelling compound called ethylmercaptan."

His advice on finding such is to take the wine back for a full refund.

James James Dempster (remove nospam to reply by email)

You know you've had a good night when you wake up and someone's outlining you in chalk.

ITYM "turgid"

Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Can'r really answer your question, but I have had a similar CH that I returned to the wine merchant and was pronounced "corked" by the shop. I was not convinced it was TCA though. The "animal" nature in my CH was something like rotting shellfish IMO - the smell you can get on the beach. Zero fruit and very acidic - perhaps the acidity was so dominant simply because the other flavours were shot.

That's expensive. We use IKEA's "SVALKA" red wines glass @ EUR 0.51!

M.

Had that yesterday evening with a Blaufränkisch 2000 Grand Réserve "Juwel" from Stefan Lang in Neckenmarkt, Burgenland. For me clearly a sign of a defective cork, although not TCA (which isn't very new to me, since science has found 5 or 6 other unpleasant tainting substances that come from cork, although less frequent than TCA).

M.

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This seems about it. Unfortunately, since I bought it in Avoriaz in the French Alps, it will be a bit of a chore bringing it back ...

Cheers!

Nils Gustaf

Oops. Thought I had deleted that line - "turbid" is fine

At the summer house I'm using the IKEA "OPTIMAL" 55cl white wine glass, for my reds(!), at EUR 2.25... they work beautifully! But these "SVALKA" 30cl glasses do look good for testing purposes! Anders

Sounds like the wine had a case of mercaptan gone to disulfide that was not adequately addressed prior to bottling. (The rubber smell is the tipoff.) I'd take it back for another bottle of equivalent.

Tom S

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They are even endorsed by the Society of Tastevins, at least the Helsingborg chapter. (That includes the splinter group previously referred to). We use the 'Svalka' for tasting, and at home for the whites - for reds we do prefer a glass with a larger bowl, either the slightly tulip shaped here mentioned, or, for Burgundies, big balloon shaped glasses (they can hold 78 cl according to the text on the box), which are, in this context, outragouesly expensive at SEK 98 for a pair. These glasses are of course kept locked in, for reasons of security. Special arrangements ahve been made in our home insurance.

IKEA is not so bad, really. Prices are a pittance in comparison with Riedel, and it is even easier to spell.

Cheers!

Nils Gustaf

Pronunciation OTOH is as variable as Riedel. Over on this side of the North Sea it is usually pronounced as an English word, stressing the E.

And I have never had a set of Riedel glasses with a bolt missing. IKEA glasses *are* self-assembly I presume.

...> And I have never had a set of Riedel glasses with a bolt missing.

Roight yew are, yer worship. COmes in a knockdown flat package, which, incidentally, is how meself looks after spending an afternoon assembling the same packages.

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

] ...> And I have never had a set of Riedel glasses with a bolt missing. ] > IKEA glasses *are* self-assembly I presume. ] ] ] Roight yew are, yer worship. COmes in a knockdown flat package, which, ] incidentally, is how meself looks after spending an afternoon assembling the ] same packages. ]

How _do_ you assemble glassware with an allen wrench!?

BTW Nils, sorry to hear you are reduced to Malesan. Unredeemable swill from the vast ocean, IMNSHO. :(

-E

"Emery Davis" skrev i meddelandet news: snipped-for-privacy@address.com...

Delicately - very delicately. Cf lovelife of hedgehogs.

I´ve had worse. We bought a case summer of 2002 after having it in France, and after resting for two years in our cellar, they drink OK on a Thursday evening. A bit green, and no complexity, but I wouldn´t go so far as to call them unredeemable swill ;). Most likely I will not buy any more - later vintages have been bland. You get better value for money from Languedoc, some of them at least.

Cheers!

Nils Gustaf

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