Filtering and bulk aging

Feb 17, 2004 9 Replies

I have three wine kits on the go right now, all of them in the clearing stage or beyond.



First kit is a peach wine kit that has very little sediment on the bottom. It has been clearing for the past two weeks.



Second kit is a pinot noir that has already been racked once since clearing (lost nearly 1 gallon thanks to all the sediment) and has already accumulated another 1" of sediment on the carboy bottom in the past two weeks.



Third kit is a riesling that has just started clearing and looks to be dropping a considerable bit of sediment as well.



All three of these kits I would like to bulk age for at least 6 months prior to bottling.



Questions:


1.) At what point should I filter, if I choose to filter the wines?
2.) When racking, I assume I discard the sediment, even though it has lots of wine mixed in there...?
3.) Will filtering reduce the amount of wine loss I'm seeing from
2)?.
4.) For bulk aging, how long should I let the wine sit on the sediment? I'm paranoid about oxidation, and don't want to rack every month!

This is where the kit instructions really break down, as they seem to assume that most people go for the kits so they can get to drinking as quick as possible.



Thanks in advance.


Harry, With all honesty, I should tell you that I do not do wine kits. However, I can answer you questions in a general way. Please wait until you hear from those who make wine kits.

1.) At what point should I filter, if I choose to filter the wines? I generally don't filter my wines until just before I bottle them. I wait until the wine drops as much sediment as it can before bottling. If there is too much junk in the wine, them your filter will clog up very quickly, so I usually let the wine clear as much as it can on its own (by racking), before making any attempt to filter.

I like to have a reserve top-up for my wines, so I try very hard to recover as much wine as I can from the sediment. There are many ways to do this, others talk about putting it into a soda bottle and running it through the spin cycle on the washing machine. Jack Keller talks about some different ways on his wine site. I pour the sediment into a glass container with as little head space as I can and put it in the fridge. Within 6-10 hours, you'll notice the heavier sediment falls to the bottom and the wine settles at the top. When the wine at the top isn't getting any larger in volume, then I draw the wine off into another container and keep it until the next time I rack.

I don't believe so. You're always going to lose some wine when you're racking off of lees. You can either make a bit more so you have a little wine to top-up with, or you can rack to smaller containers each time to reduce the amount of exposure to air, or you can add a similar wine to top up with, or you can drop marbles into the carboy to increase the volume to keep it topped up.

My rule of thumb is to rack 2-4 times in a 7 month aging period. It all depends on the wine. If a wine is dropping a lot of sediment, I will rack it (but I usually let the wine sit for at least a month). The amount of sediment a wine drops should lessen with time. Some wines clear up at 3 months and then I won't rack it anymore, some take longer. Hopefully someone will have some experience with your wine kits, so they can tell you what works best.

Thank you for a great post Darlene.

Do not understand how you can lose a gallon from sediment (you are talking a standard 23 litre kit?). That's 20% of your product gone.

I might lose a little from racking, but nothing like that. The most I have lost is a litre or so. I usually top up with a bottle from similar wine made before.

Lum, Thanks - I have learned a lot from all of you, which has helped me to respond to others. Darlene

Darlene,

I think we all have, at least for "those who have ears to listen!" Lum, Tom and of course several others are wonderful contributors to our knowledge of winemaking. Great group.

Thanks Lum and keep on posting,

Glen Duff

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Dar V wrote:

That's how much sediment precipitated out of the wine. I thought it was a lot too, but there's not much I could do.

Thanks Darlene, very helpful post!

One followup question...

Do you do anything to reduce oxygen exposure when racking? Racking 4 times must introduce a considerable amount of oxygen.

Thanks again, Harry

Harry, I racked 1 gallon of strawberry wine with morning from my primary to my glass secondary, and it took me a couple of minutes (or less), and then I put the bung and airlock on right away. Even if you have a big carboy, once you get the siphon going - this amount of limited exposure shouldn't hurt it. I'll admit the first time I racked it took me awhile, but I get it done pretty quick now. You should really only have 1 or 2 rackings where you have a lot of lees - and the other 1 or 2 times to rack should be used only if the wine isn't clearing. Since I like a bit sweeter wine, sometimes that final rack is to sorbate and sweeten; and then waiting a month before bottling. I've had a couple of problem wines which I ended up racking 5 or

6 times in a 9-10 month period - while I'm not an expert, I did not notice any oxidation problems, nor did the wines turns brown and such (which is an indication of oxidation). Hope this helps. Darlene

You could have saved that gunk and allowed it to settle further over the course of months. Adding some bentonite slurry to it probably would have helped speed things up a bit.

Tom S

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