spray recommendations?

One more thing about Oxiclean that may interest people. If you wash strawberries with Oxiclean after you pick/buy them you will notice that they stay fresh and don't rot for weeks. I used Oxiclean exclusively last year and was betting that Oxiclean would be great in preventing bunch rot. Chambourcin isn't that susceptible to bunch rot so I didn't really prove anything last year but I would guess that if someone wanted to use Oxiclean/sodium percarbonate for bunch rot, it would work if they couldn't afford or find commercial fungicides. BTW, Oxiclean is great stuff for cleaning wine equiptment and the only residue is soda ash so I can't see why you couldn't use it for a spray on personal grapes even if it's not recommended.

Bob

Paul E. Lehmann wrote:

believe I have read that Sulphur and Copper sprays are approved for "Organic" grown grapes. In other words, one may be surprised at what qualifies for "Organic Grown".

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I am on my first journey of hobby wine making. I purchased a one-step (no rinse) sanitizer for the equipment and it was suspiciously similar to Oxiclean in form, feel and application. I wondered then if it was just Oxiclean being repackaged and renamed. Is this the case, and can I just use Oxiclean and get the same results?

Quixote

.... I can't see why you couldn't use it for a spray

Bob,

From what I've read since this thread started, sodium percarbonate _is_ approved for grapes & other fruits in several proprietary products. They usually combine it with hydrogen peroxide and sell it as a concentrate. These products have even been approved for sanitizing hard surfaces to get rid of anthrax! It seems that it's effective against fungus spores, bacteria, viruses (and stains).

What gave you the idea to use it in the first place?

Mike MTM, Cokesbury, NJ, USA

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Mike,

It's a long story but it started out with finding a solution to keep my slate floors clean and snowballed from there. After the results I got from the slate floor I started looking into what Oxiclean is and what's in it. Oxiclean is sodium percarbonate which is also called oxygen bleach. There isn't much info on the web about it's effectiveness as a fungicide but there is much info on it's effectiveness as a laundry detergent and a wood cleaner. It's the wood cleaner stuff that lead me to find out that it's a great fungus remover, has the same pH as Bordeaux Mixture, is safe for the septic , plants ,and is a safe wine equiptment cleaner. It's great for any organic stains like wine and coffee. It also is advertised as a good grout cleaner so that's why I used it on stone. It's not advertised as a stone cleaner but it does a great job. Anyway I used my 100 vine vineyard to experiment last year and was very pleased with the results. I think it's better than pure hydrogen peroxide ( Oxidate ) becuase of the high pH residue ( Soda Ash ) that's left on the leaves to act as a protectant. I also was excited about the ability to spray in the rain because you never know when you'll get those 7 day rain fall and you need to get something on the leaves. What's better than sparaying something that will give you a clean slate until you can get some protection on them. Also I used Oxiclean on strawberries to keep them from premature rotting and it worked great so I thought it might have some usefulness with bunch rot. So that's basically the gist of it.

Bob

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