Derbyshire Treasure Hunt

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This says food to me.

All it says on the bar page is

"a selection of draught beers, including real ale"

This says inept spamming to me. Must remember not to visit.

Paul

There was something on the news recently about hotels posting glowing reports about themselves supposedly from "satisfied guests".

Interestingly nobody appears to have recommended this pub to the Good Pub Guide. I wonder why?

The awards are genuine though, and the pub was shortlisted:

If a pub wins an award as "Bistro/Pub of the Year" it suggests to me "avoid like the plague" :-(

Haha! That's good for Derbyshire.

Is the pub in Eyam?

Ho ho. Actually it's near Ashbourne.

PeterE15/11/06 18:44

Why?

CR (just curious)

Because it's likely to be a gastropub full of Range Rover driving upper middle class foodies?

Paul

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:49:35 +0000, Paul Sherwin wrote (in article ):

I've found it's quite often the case that you get much better choice and quality of beer in gastropubs than most places.

On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:40:11 +0000, Steve Pickthall wrote (in message ):

Such as?

Lots of contenders round here.

I'd like to explore this but think it needs a new thread.

goto Gastro pubs!

define:

a pub that serves food?

Gastro pub, back street boozer, drinking barn, country pub, etc. Does it really matter as long as they have good quality real ale?

Lynda

Somewhere where thet get a bit annoyed if you sit down at a table whilst your just having a drink.

Usually you're discouraged from doing this by them setting tables etc.

A gastropub is not a pub that serves food. It is a pub where the focus of trading is pretentious expensive food.

There is obviously a lot of variation, but in the worst cases a gastropub is an ex village local which has been bought by a would be chef and turned into a poncey expensive restaurant with no provision for the locals at all. Some even bar old regulars or deliberately make them feel very unwelcome.

Gastropubs sometimes serve one or more cask beers because these fit the image, but they are likely to be the usual suspects such as London Pride or GK IPA since the owner will have no real interest in beer.

The best gastropubs have completely separate restaurant and bar areas and run the bar as a traditional pub, but these are the exceptions in my experience.

Best regards, Paul

In message , Chris de Cordova wrote

A pub where all the staff are too busy to bother with anyone who only wants a drink.

If your only interest is real ale, no. If you enjoy the atmosphere of traditional pubs and value of contribution they make to communities, yes.

A gastro pub may serve the best real ale in the world, but if it makes the ordinary casual drinker feel unwelcome and out of place it would not appeal to me.

Absolutely, there is a world of difference between a gastropub and a proper pub that also serves good food.

That reminds me of a pub in Litton (coincidentally also in Derbys) we went to many years ago. We ordered a couple of pints and sat down at a table - whereupon they suddenly decided that all the tables had to be laid out for meals. The other few people there were huddled round the bar. Obviously they had learnt that sitting down at the (dining) tables was absolutely verboten - unless you were having one of their "upmarket" meals that is. And there was nowhere else to sit.

Needless to say we never returned - for a meal or otherwise.