OT - Austria

Jul 13, 2006 8 Replies

Just home from holiday in Austria. A few notes that may help anyone visiting, although if it is just beer you are after, then don't go! Most breweries produce variations on 'euro-fizz'. Can be expensive as well. I didn't get to Vienna or other touristy cities, where perhaps the beer scene is better?



I didn't do much research and went armed with printout from

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Bad Ischl: Gasthaus Alt-Ischler



Gasthaus is still open but is not a brewery. Got impression from staff that it ceased brewing long ago. Sells national fizz instead.



Schladming: Schwalben-Braü



My goodness, what a wild goose chase this was. I couldn't find the address and locals were equally confused. Finally tracked down the road and 'Firma Felix Gruber'. It is in an industrial estate north of town and Gewerbestr.



639 is indeed 'Firma Felix Gruber'. Mr Gruber is in the building trade and no. 639 is a builders' supply depot! This can never ever have been a brew pub, although one of the buildings could once have housed a brewery I suppose, but very unlikely.

However, the brew pub may exist. I wasted so much time tracking down above I had no time to check out this:



Schwalbenbräu Siedergasse 89



8970 Schladming Open: 10:30 to 24:00 daily except Sunday (closed). May brew a wheat beer and a dark beer, so sounds of interest. Pity I missed it.

Nobody had ever heard of Fritz Schneeberger brewery and with no address it was impossible to research further. As local interest in beer in Austria is zero, the fact nobody knows of a brewery means little.



Sankt Georgen



Thought I had discovered a new brewery, but no. The brewery here is now under a new name and perhaps owners. It is now Brauerei Karls. Is a brewpub rather than a micro brewery, with kettles within pub. Produces organic beer. Location is slightly confusing - from address appears to be in St Georgen, but is immediately outside Kreischberg railway station, which is in turn is in St Lorenzen with another station only a hundred metres or so from latter! Opens daily 10:00 to late; food 12:00 to 21:00.

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has possibly a list of most breweries. That shows other changes, such as Schladminger Brau (Euro fizz) is now part of Brau Union Österreich AG.



What is annoying is that Austria can produce decent beer - Zwickl or Kellerebier styles are good if you find them which is rarely. Wheat beer is another alternative, although the chances are that this will be from Bavaria rather than Austria. The Weiss from the Salzburg Weissbierbrauerei was very good, but menus will rarely show brewery. Asking bar staff who brews the beer shown on menu seems akin to asking them to drop their underwear. Supermarkets sell 'specialist' beers, again showing the local breweries are able to turn out something drinkable, but most never appear on Gasthof menus.



Also visited Stadtbräu Josef in Linz, which must be the biggest brewpub I have ever visited - it is vast. But is a trendy sort of yoof hang out, with prices to match. Beer unexceptional but a good deal better than the standard fizz elsewhere in city. A second visit found it closed with local police ensuring that was so! A rock band had been playing earlier.



David


long tale of woe snipped (and staying off-topic):

To be fair, the Austrian beer scene isn't that bad, and some of what you describe as "Eurofizz" is very palatable indeed. Stay away from Goesser, Zipfer, Schwechater etc., and stick to the smaller breweries would be my advice.

If you were in Salzburg, I sincerely hope you paid a visit to Moellnerbraeu. They only brew the one beer, AFAIAA, but it isn't Eurofizz, and it's very tasty indeed.

You really ought to have paid Vienna a visit. Given that I was there myself last week, I could have bought you a pint at one of the several brewpubs there. The 1516 Brewing Companyin Schwarzenbergstrasse is a partiicularly fine example.

A visit to the town of Ceske Budejovice in the Czech Republic surprised me in several ways. There are now at least as many places selling InBev products (Pilsner Urquell, Stella Artois etc) as those selling the town's own Budvar. The one-time market hall which at some point became a restaurant, and which I always took to be the Budvar brewery tap ("U Mlasne Kramy"), is closed down and derelict. There is a new beer hall in a hotel at the opposite corner of the main square, which seems to be the new brewery tap. The Budvar there was far too fizzy and far too cold.

Budvar are also producing a 7.5% abv version of their beer, in 33cl bottles, called "Bud". I love that!

There is a restaurant on the main square now which sells beer from the "Budweiser Buergerbraeu" brewery, allegedly founded in 1795. I've never heard of this one before, and I didn't try the beer.

Mike Roebuck a écrit :

And just north of Salzburg there's Obertrum, home of Trumer Privatbrauerei, whose Trumer Pils, especially in draft form, is a very nice, crisp, flowery, hoppy pilsner, which should appeal to british palates.

They export it too, at least to some parts of the civilised world, such as Switzerland ;o) ... problem is it's bottled in green glass and sometimes skunked by the time you get it. :o(

Cheers !

Laurent

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David, I don't know about the address but I know that Schwalbenbräu exists and makes very good beer, brewed right there in kettles. I've been there a few times on my skiing holidays. It cannot be overseen, very centrally in the pedestrian zone, in the town centre. I am from Austria btw, and I can assure you that we have a lot of small breweries making excellent beer, many of them even in Vienna. Maybe you should try this site for more information:

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Cheers,

Stefan

In message , The Submarine Captain writes

In Braunau am Inn there is the Hausbrauerei Bogner, handily situated in Stadtplatz, which is the market 'square'. Claims to be Europe's smallest brewery, but I think this is a little fanciful though I didn't actually get to see the brewery. It's a nice pub though, with typically substantial Austrian food and one house beer as far as I could determine, a pleasant weizen costing (on 26th Jan) EUR 3 for half a litre. I make that about £2.45 a pint at the moment. The Hotel Post across the road is a friendly establishment with good accommodation and English spoken.

The station is a fair way from the town centre but until around 6.30 p.m. there's a bus (no.3) between the station and Stadtplatz, which costs a whole euro.

Photo of the pub at

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This one (like many others) came to my notice on Paul Harrop's excellent web site,

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Dave

When I was in Vienna in April, a native who had been singing the praises of British beer recommended a brew pub or similar called the Seven Stars, somewhere near Volkstheater. I didn't make it there, as I didn't get further than a purveyor of dark (and numerous other) beers on Judenplatz.

That would be the Siebensternbräu brewpub, which has a variety of interesting beers on offer. Along with the 1516 Brewing Co., these rank as Vienna's best brewpubs, in terms of variety and willingness to brew beers outside the typical central European "box."

Any chance you remember the name of said purveyor?

Afraid not. Looking at a map, it was on the corner of Jordangasse, and is fairly easy to spot.

Dave

If you go back to Austria, you could do a lot worse than obtain a copy of Conrad Seidl's "Bier Guide 2006", published by KVG Marketing - und VerlagsgesmbH, A-2345 Brunn am Gebirge, ISBN 3-9501956-8-8.

This is a serious guide to where to drink beer in Austria - cost €14.40, 330 pages (but in German only).

I bought mine last night at the 1516 Brewing Company, whilst enjoying a glass of Victory Hop Devil Indian Pale Ale (brewed by US master brewer Bill Covaleski at the Viennese brewpub). Fabulous beer!

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