BrianW a écrit :
Well, Brian, I fear that with the stranglehold of the big boys on beer
distribution in Eire, cask stuff must be, like on the continent, be
considered as the icing on the cake...
The hunt is rather for anything out of the ordinary, and preferably
decent, even if it's not necessarily cask ale. ;o)
In message , The Submarine Captain
On which note, I was on a flying visit a few weeks ago and sampled a
bottled wheat beer from the Carlow Brewery. It was a chance purchase (in
fact from a Belfast offie). Not the sort of thing I was expecting to
find, and I know nothing whatever of its background, but it was
certainly a pleasant drink.
Don't expect any real ale though. When I was last at Biddy Early's, it
had CAMRA certificates all over the place, but the (admittedly good)
beers were the fizzy keg version. It's a sod of a place to get to
without a car as well.
Ennis is well worth a visit for the craic, though :-)
Carlow Brewery is right by the train station, which is about 1hr20 from
Dublin Heuston station on the Waterford line. 15euro return. Right now
they're not doing any tours as they're having new plant put in. Huge stack
of kegs outside led me to ask about cask. The bloke said they do some, but
not much. Most of it goes to England, but he recommended a place on the
road to Cork. They sell cases of bottles on site, but not smaller orders.
Dublin - I stayed in the area around Trinity College. Found a nice place
around there called the Ginger Man (or Gin German) selling non-cask micros
from Cork, and another place on the Liffey across from O Connel St selling
it's own brews on keg. Guinness is doing a "seasonal" thing, and qite a few
places are currently carrying their "Toucan Brew", which has less roasted
bitterness, and hence seems a little smoother. This is the second in a
planned line, so seems to be a step in the right direction. Just can't see
them rolling out "Real Cask Guinness" at the end of it...
Not at all sure that a dumbed down version of a dumbed down beer is
anything to celebrate.
If they brought out a full flavoured bitter stout in unpasteurised
form with a good dose of East Kent Goldings and a really roast flavour
(like what's that drink again? Oh yes - Guinness as it used to be)
that'd be a step worth rasing a glass to.
Or like Porterhouse Wrasslers 4X is!
But no doubt their offerings were available at the Sneem beer festival,
the evening before we left for home.
The previous evening they had apparently featured beers from Poland,
including (sic) Staropramen.
As for me, I don't care if I never see another pint of Guinness (or
Murphys) again in my whole life! I didn't try the Bulmers or Smithwicks...
Because he's Swiss. They learn three languages from birth, so adding a=20
fourth is no problem. ;-)
And no Laurent, I didn't find anything interesting when I was there -=20
although one pub did have a couple of draught German beers.
BrianW a écrit :
Just doing me best, Ma'am ! ;o)
Nice myth, Brian, but it's not quite as rosy as that... ;o)
I'm a native french speaker, which isn't necessarily that good a
I've been taught german from 11 years old on, but still couldn't really
put a sentence together eight years' schooling later. I only activated
it when I moved into the german-speaking part nine years ago, and found
myself able to speak it not too badly within weeks. Partly because
in-between I'd been able to "crack" understanding german, after
reachiong a good level with nglish.
The one central skill here is being able to go aroung the word you don't
understand in a sentence, and then, once you've got the whole context,
deduct what its meaning could be.
English I was taught from the age of 13 on, it came a lot more quickly,
because I was motivated enough. I must have got the basics, including
sentence pattern and a general "feel" of the language, listening to the
Betles as a teenager, then, followed an iontensive course in Bristol in
1990 (where I realised that the beer on handpump at the pub two doors
away from the language school was brewed further down the street at the
Smiles Brewery, and that it was no only good but a damn sight tastier
tahn the then-ubiquitous Courage), passed my Certificate of Proficiency
in english by the skin of my teeth... but then it's like your driving
test : you learn how to pass it, not really how to drive...
So I ended up teaching myself proper british english using "Monty
Pythons Flying Circus" on video, watching an episode a day, twice or
thrice, with the remote in one hand and the book containing the scripts
in the other hand.
The tricky bit ever since has been to maintain my english current.
The principle : find something that interests you in the language you
need to train : book magazine, film, newspaper, whaterver, and chances
are good you'll end up concentrating on its contents rather than the
language it's delivered in.
Beery literature in english has been one thing I used, but ever since
the advent of DVD, I've appreciated being able to watch english-language
films with english subtitles. Reading what you hear and hearing what you
read is a tremendously painless way to train your language skills.
Problem is french or german DVDs all too rarely come with subtitles in
the same language as the film. :o(
Sad state of things it is, then... :o((
In article ,
The principle works for virtually anything. It is why amateurs are
frequently better at things than most of the "professionals" in the same
subject. Plain and simple a love of the subject aids learning.
If people just stop and think about the word "amateur" they will realise
why, and also see that the put downs of amateurs by professionals just
represent sour grapes.