Wetherspoons are to ban smoking in all their 'pubs' - well they'll save on ashtrays.
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19 years ago
Wetherspoons are to ban smoking in all their 'pubs' - well they'll save on ashtrays.
Wonder who'll police that, the over-worked under-paid staff? Guess they'll be glad to take on the extra aggro. KeithS
At least they are doing something.
Let's see if the bouncers are as enthusiastic enforcing this as they are getting people out at closing time.
Best regards, Paul
-- Paul Sherwin Consulting
Hurrah. The more this spreads, the more likely I am to be able to persuade my friends that pubs aren't just places for smelly old men, and that you can visit a pub wearing clothes you wear for work.
If the ban works like the smoking ban on trains, buses, etc, then other customers may well do so. Fare dodgers and vandals on trains get ignored, but normal travellers form instant lynch mobs when someonone lights up.
On the other hand, perhaps Spoons could redeploy the staff who currently waste everyone's time by agressively demanding people shuffle to other seats at 23:00:01 (not that I've been back since).
What's wrong with us smelly old men ? Seriously , the no-smoking pub is inevitable - once the effect of passive smoking is established without doubt no-one is going to want to risk lawsuits.
Most likely they'll lose the smokers to another pub unless their is a law passed banning smoking in all pubs in a certain area. Even then people may go to a different town for a smoking pub. Here in New Jersey smoking is legal in bars/taverns/pubs/restaurants. However in New York just across the river it is illegal to light up in all these type establishments. This causes a lot of New York City folk to hop on the PATH train and come over to Hoboken, New Jersey and spend their leisure dollars over here, just so they can light up and drink at the same time.
Cheers, Bruce CAMRA member from New Jersey
The friends I try to encourage to drink more beer aren't any of those :)
I suspect they just don't want to lose their food revenue, regardless of what they are telling the press.
If they keep on selling food, they will be obliged to ban smoking anyway, when the new law comes into force.
I'm pleased they're pre-empting it, all the same.
It also causes us non-smokers who used to go to Hoboken a lot, to Maxwell's and the Goldhawk and other worthy establishments, to stay on this side of the Hudson and breathe free. You're very welcome to our bridge & tunnel crowd...
Pierre
Right, so that would be a proposal to ban smoking in public places like restaurants, cafes, pubs ...
Guess what.
As you probably realise UK legislation on this type of thing tends to be of the blanket countrywide version rather than the local. The differences coming from the State divisions the US has and the UK doesn't.
I think the nearest the US could come is making smoking in certain places a federal offence.
I think it would be far easier to reinstate the old style smoking rooms, at least when that doesn't work properly and the staff suggest legal claims for the effect of secondary smoking we have a proper pub left behind instead of the mega-barns that seem so popular with the pubcos.
They also pre-empted lined glasses ... Oh.
That can't be a bad thing then... :-)
We do have three different legal systems, though, so I would imagine the rules could be different in England & Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The pubs open at different times, so could presumably regulate pollution differently. All the smokers would be dashing to and from Berwick to suit!
Indeed, good point :-)
Didn't the Labour Party have an election pledge about full pints at the time when JDW had lined glasses?
When no law on full pints was forthcoming they couldn't compete with the criminal element in the licenced trade :)
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:05:14 +0000, PeterE wrote (in message ):
I think it is safe to assume that Tim Martin understands the price/dead-leg connection.
It amuses me slightly that my original point has been missed - that they're banning smoking to save costs under the guise of a great campaigning stand, clever. They did the same with the lack of music in their pensioner drinking barns too.
What?
Labour failed to keep an election pledge?!?
You're kidding, right?
BTN
Isn't a lot of this a fuss about nothing, or just an advertising statement ? basically he seems to be saying that all our pubs will be some free from spring
2006, which is when a ban, if passed, is supposed to start by anyway ? So he gets a lot of headlines by actually saying that he's going to trial this in some branches before then, which isn't actually saying much is it ?
No, the official ban is not due to start until 2008.
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