canadian whisky

black velvet used to be called black label. i thought i heard of this before....or so i read somewheres.

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bob wald
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oh yeah bill...i haveto figure this out now..while its on sale...n as far as i drinking too much..lol i drink very lil... but i figure if people can spend $30 on a carton of cigarettes..i can buy afew bottles of a good whisky...$$$$$$$$

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bob wald

"bob wald": whiskys not aged in a barrel

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Gunnar

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Gunnar Thormodsæter

well gunnar..this bv reserve says its aged a full 8 yrs in a barrel... maybe you should write them..lol just got back... bought more bv reserve. saw some canadian hunter too..lol priced more too.....

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bob wald

"bob wald" skrev i melding news: snipped-for-privacy@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net...

well bob... You missed my point. I quoted you talking about "whiskys not aged in a barrel". I have never heard of a whisky not aged in wood casks. Which whiskies are you referring to? All scotch whisky for instance is by law aged at least 3 years in oak. By the way, 8 years is not exactly impressive.

Gunnar

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Gunnar Thormodsæter

Whisky (as in scotch whisky with no "e") is typically aged much longer than whiskey (as in U.S. or Canadian whiskey with the "e"). There are exceptions on both sides, of course, but much "ordinary" bourbon is typically aged around 4 years, with the higher priced stuff going up close to the 20's. This would include Canadian (in keeping with the subject of this thread) whiskey, or whisky. Depends on the dominant grain used in the spirit. Scotch whisky is usually considered mature around 10-12 years or longer (Arran being a notable exception), and bottles are available in the 30's or older if you have the cash to afford them.

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mdavis

ok i see now.. before you wasnt clear..bv regular as well as some others i dont believe are aged. or it doesnt say it....jim beam, etc.

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bob wald

i'd just like to state incase you cant figure it out...bv reserve. i think ill stick with this as my choice..meaning this is the the best for around this price.i think.... of coarse i'm not saying this is better than a bottle 2x+ its price. there were afew others i almost bought..evan williams reserve comes to mind. n others.... they had a 17yr old bottle i thought was pretty responsible. there was a 10yr scotch whisky i almost bought. but i stuck with bv reserve. the bv was cheaper due to its markdown. but the usual price was more than the scotch whisky. i have some Early Times Whisky i bought yrs back too. aged 3yrs.lol

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bob wald

i think 8yrs is very exceptional...since alots aged 3-4 yrs i saw. now alot i read didnt say it was aged any yrs..maybe i just didnt know whiskys haveto be aged so long at least....or maybe it was aged weeks not longer.... kentucky deluxe n kentucky tavern. didnt say.

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bob wald

gunnar..lol looks like you talking as if you know whisky. has to have it explained to you.like i do. lol....i knew thew longer its aged the better the whisky.. as i looked around the liquor store. gunnar..dont know how long you been interested in whiskys etc..but id say myself after looking around a liquor store 3 times.know more than you.lol

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bob wald

gunnar..i read your post once more for laughs.. n you even say whiskys are aged at least 3yrs..wouldnt 8 be exceptional to 3? you talking even conflicts with itself..ooh' i think i figured it out..you must be loaded now.lol sober up gunar before you type more....you are a funny drunk tho..lol

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bob wald

The quality of a whisky is determined mainly by tasting it. With Canadians, most of the best ones I know are those in the 15-25-year age range.

There are also some good NOS -- no age statement -- Canadians, which tend to be much cheaper. Black Velvet would be in there somewhere, but not close to the top of my list. It fits the Canadian whiskey profile and it comes in one of those tubes used for single malts, which makes it an attractive but inexpensive gift.

If it is at the top of your list and you can get it for a good price, by all means fill your boots. What's important is what *you* like, not what somebody else thinks of it.

My all-time favourite Canadian whiskey is Bush Pilot's Private Reserve, a 13-year-old that is no longer made. It was made specifically for export to the U.S. and perhaps there are still some on the dusty shelves in the back of out-of-the-way U.S. liquor stores.

The nearest thing you can get to it today is the 21-year-old Century Reserve, which is truly fine but not jaw-droppingly good like Bush Pilot's. Some notes on it by a couple of experts, courtesy whiskymag.com:

Michael Jackson Nose Honey. Honeydew melons. Palate Smooth. Honeyish. Developing appetisingly rounded rye flavours. Finish Crisp. Comment Substantially more character than the 15-year-old.

Dave Broom Nose Floral and estery with biscuity wood, rye spice, yellow plums. Seems filled with pent-up energy. Palate Spicy yet slow-moving good mix of oily rye and fine weight. Smooth and mouthcoating, yet grippy. Finish Oak tones. Comment Seems light and approachable but carries a switchblade in its pocket. -- Robbie Robertson.

There is also a 15-year-old Century Reserve, not as good as the 21, but quite decent.

If you taste all three, it is obvious they share a flavour profile and were made at the same distillery [in Kelowna, B.C.]

bill

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bill van

bv reserve comes in a tube? it does come in a black velvet bag.which this store takes off. n just sets the bottles on thier shevles... i bought 1 with the bag still on.. but dont see any more at this store.. bv reserve i'd guess comes towards the top canadiana wiskys aged 6-8 yrs... i'm really stuck now..have afew bottles...thinking should i buy afew more...dont think ill ever find it cheaper...n i'm not into alot moneywise yet..... i pulled back buying still only around $100. i know i was going to go big..but thought do i wanna limit my choices in the future by buying into 1 so heavy? but afew more bottles i think ill be free to try others if the price is right. am thinking about k&b whisky i really enjoyed..aged 7yrs made in new orleans. doesnt exist now..k&b is rite aid drug store now. wish i woulda loaded up afew yrs ago on k&b. ''tear drop''. n k&b was alot cheaper than even this black velvet on sale.....

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bob wald

Bill Van is right on. Who cares what others think if you like it? Find a reviewer who shares your own taste on known bottles and use that as a guide for exploring new bottles.

I know little or nothing about Canadian and bourbon whiskey. But as a fanatic whisky fan (single malt), I find older ages are different, not necessarily "better." In general, with a peaty, smoky whisky, age removes the smoke and begins to reveal the background complexity. Some like younger bottles, some like older bottles. There may also be a bit of bias from the status of owning $100+ bottles of whisky.

If you go to web sites with experienced tasters and look at the ratings, you'll find most of the higher rated bottles are in the 15-20 year range, generally. There are many exceptions, of course, but (for example) in Michael Jackson's 5th Ed. of Scotch Whisky Guide, the 20-30 year olds don't always fare as well as the 15 yrs. in terms of overall rating.

A cheap bottle of Jim Beam says 4 years in fine print at the bottom of the label. I'm beginning to explore bourbon, but I'm adjusting my age expectations downward a bit.

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mdavis

i read by law in canada whisky has to be aged 3 if not 4 yrs.i forget. also bv is a blend. i guess theres a difference. also any1 cook with whisky? like on meats.or letting cuts of meats soak awhile in whisky.

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bob wald

That's true as far as it goes, but sometimes the comments of others can steer you in new directions, toward things that you might like better, but didn't even know existed.

You'd be missing quite a bit, for example, if you first tasted a good whiskey, like Maker's Mark, liked it, and never investigated anything else.

-- Larry

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pltrgyst

Ah, yes. The reason most of us are here ..... new ideas.

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mdavis

oh incase you wondering why i'm so worried about price. i figure why buy a $50 bottle if i'm not going to enjoy anytime i want.... i cant see going all crazy over a $88+ bottle of drink..knowing you will be limited to drinking it. i dout any of you drink a $88+ bottle of whisky 10 times ayr.... n i do plan on buying more expensive brands..just buying this while its dirt cheap.... i've bought 7bottles n aint got to $88 yet....lol i'm just starting to explore whisky.lol

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bob wald

Out here we call it "Black Crap".

Need to know anything else?

Gladys.

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Gladys

Then you are just as stupid as you appear. :-)

Gladys.

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Gladys

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