Cork or cap?

Dec 19, 2003 10 Replies

I'e heard from some very influencial wine experts & critics that many of the better wine prducers world wide will be going over to air tight caps & ditching the less efficient cork. I'll bet the wine snobs will be screaming about this bit of news. It is only logical that the porous cork is only good if the wine is placed on its side & even then it will slowly decompose. Chateau Mouton Rothschilde et. al. with plastic caps??? Whaddaya think?



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hello E Carl

Firstly, could I ask you please to keep your sig to the W3W recomnended limits of 3 lines max.

I pay to get >I'e heard from some very influencial wine experts & critics that many of

This is a subject that's been done to death here and elsewhere on many occasions. Corks aren't less efficient, they are prone to TCA contamination and that spoils the wine.

Not exactly news.

All the best Ian (To reply by email PLEASE don't use "Reply to" but use my name at wanadoo.fr) Thanks.

Nobody serious talks about plastic caps (extruded or molded sythetic stoppers) for anything else than everyday wine to be consumed fast.

For Mouton & co. serious alternatives comprise screwcaps ("Stelvin"), crown caps ("Stainless Cap"), or glass stoppers ("Vino-Lok").

M.

There ample proof that corks allow fine wines to age by slowly allowing air to enter the bottle. There is no proof that the plastic caps will allow a wine to age. By all means, I think plastic caps, screw caps, etc. should be used on wine meant for early drinking. There's no point in using cork for these kinds of wines.

A friend informs me that in Switzerland, many of the very good quality white wines meant for current consumption are sold with screw caps.

You will, of course, kindly cite the "ample proof" of this assertion.

pavane

Yes, I would like to see it too.

Could you cite some of this "ample proof"? I can believe that air may enter *around* the cork when the bottle is temperature-cycled, but I'm quite doubtful that air permeates the actual cork.

Dana

And how about champagne corks retaining bubbles for decades - even under pressure?

M.

Damn, are you going to confuse the issue with real scientific observations? :-)

Don't feel too bad. Civil War Carl hasn't yet offered a single WA PN that might be superior to most CA Pinot Noir, which might mean he's just winding us all up.

Dana

Exactly.

But there is a trend in sommelier schools in France and Italy to propagatre the myth of cork stoppers not being hermetic and allowing some mysteryious gas echanges. Why these gases would move around, and according to what physical principle, nobody ever explains.

A good cork is a hermetic seal.

Mike

Psssshhhht! Don't wake-up the cork permeability fraction ...

M.

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