A rep at a recent tasting indicated that a particular wine was made from a red grape (name escapes me now) which was one of the two or so vinifera varieties whose juice was *not* clear.
I was under the impression that all red vinifera varieties had clear juice.
What's the scoop?
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There aRe a few varieties with colored juice - they are sometimes called teinturier in French (which could be translated as colorers, or, perhaps closer, dyers). One variety IS Teinturier. ALicante Bouschet and Gamay Teintuirer (not the same as the Gamay of Beaujolais which is sometimes referred to as Gamay a jus blanc) are others. These are used as colorants - to add more color to pale varieties. I know of no teinturier that in itself makes firts class wines.
HTH
Cheers
Nils Gustaf
I would like to add a small comment:
In 1824, Louis Bouschet crossed the then widely planted french grape Aramon with an ancient red-juiced vinifera variety, Teinturier du Cher, and the result was called Petit Bouschet. In 1865, this man's son Henri continued this path, crossing Petit Bouschet with Grenache to create Alicante Bouschet. In our time it has reached quite good results in Portugal and South Africa, even when it is made as 100% Alicante Bouschet.
Helge
Same goes for labrusca varieties, it seems: Ancellotta is a tintoria too, and is one of the traditionale Lambrusco grapes. "Vitis labrusca" is not "lambrusco" but the opposite is true, baing Lambrusco grapes from that family, so Ancellotta should be from the "vitis labrusca" family, too.
BTW - Vitis Labrusca varieties should be the only italian autoctonous grapes, is it true?
Yes, various v. labrusca such as the Concord grape have dark juice.
V. labrusca is native to the Eastern US, so I don't see how it could be autochthonous to Italy. Am I missing something? I thought that all European grapes were v. vinifera until the discovery of the Americas.
Mark Lipton
Vilco loves lambrusco, uses it as water.
Yes he meant Lambrusco is based on vinifera grapes, not labrusca.
Vilco, where does the name Lambrusco come from, from Lambro?
Obviously ;)
Check the link I posted in my reply to Mark. Now I'm "dazed and confused" about it.
From "labrum" (latin for border, margin) and "ruscum" (spontaneously growing plant): "spontaneous plant growing along the margins (of fields and crops)". This not only gives an origin to the name, but also clearly indicates the wild origins of that grape: while the vinifera was cultivated, the labrusca wasn't.
Another source translates "ruscum" as "cultivated fields", thus changing the interpretation of the name Lambrusco into this: "along the margins of the fields". Anyway it is, it's obvious that this grape has been arounf for a long time in central - northern Italy. Now I'm guessing: could it be that the name "vitis labrusca" has been used in the past for this wild italian grape and now it is used to indicate the american-native grape?
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