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] > > Sigh. Max Hauser.... how would YOU (with your requests for tolerance for ] > > newcomers) deal with this? ] > >
] > > Whatever your name is. You might like to be a little more careful. The ] > > thread was about Riedel stemless glasses, not any random glassware you ] may ] > > have picked up in Pamplona. And excoriating Michael Proney, as an idiot ] when ] > > it is you yourself who is in error, is not going to make you many ] friends. ] > > You ought to apoligise quickly, and without reservation. ] >
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] > FWIW...... ] >
] > Though an infrequent poster here, I do read the group almost every day. ] >
] > When I saw the poster's comment that he had seen the stemless glasses so ] > long ago I knew two things for sure. One, he was almost certainly not ] > talking about Riedel product and two, that he was likely to pay dearly for ] > the transgression of not having properly stated and clarified his ] > observation. ] >
] > I know I would post more often if I didn't feel it necessary to be ] > inordinately certain of my facts and just how I compose any post. Not ] that ] > one shouldn't always be as accurate as possible..... but some on this ] group ] > can sometimes be quite harsh in circumstances that wouldn't seem to ] warrant ] > such reaction. For many people, the instant response to such caustic ] > correction is to lash back. ] ] FWIW, my first impulse was to jump to Ian's defense on this issue - but on ] reflection, I think that's more appropriately left to him. So I will. ]
For what it's worth it was perfectly clear to me that the poster was refering to _similar_ glassware, which I consider perfectly on-topic to a "new" design from Riedel.
But what is apparent to a native english speaker (although my spelling may often belie it) may not be so to a non-native, even one with such excellent skills as M. Pronay. Still this is a fine example of where restraint, and Max's old-fashioned odiferous advice, pay off.
] But that got me to pondering: Is AFW perhaps a bit too user-unfriendly ] (cliquish?) to outsiders? If my first reaction was to circle the wagons, ] what about the other regulars? It sounds like we may at times be perceived ] a little too quick to criticism. ]
I think you're right, Tom. It's natural that we do so, and I think the nature of the medium makes regulars a little clique-ish. But it is discouraging to new posters.
] I've never been intimidated by the spelling and fact checkers among us, but ] I can see where some might be. Such intimidation is not conducive to well ] reasoned (if not articulate) dialog among us. After all, we're here to ] discuss wine and food - not grammar. I'll be the first to admit that my own ] experience with both is neither as deep nor as broad as I'd wish. ] ] Anyway, after all that blathering, welcome aboard! :^) ]
Indeed.
-E