TN: Bourgogne and GruVe

Aug 22, 2005 9 Replies

Thursday was black sea bass with a sesame crust and a ginger/soy sauce. I thought this might do well with a light red, and went looking for a Beaujolais. But sitting out on top of bin was a bottle of the 2002 Ghislaine Barthod "Les Bons Bâtons" Bourgogne. Light and tight at first, opened with a bit of air into a perfumed Pinot with floral notes and strawberry & raspberry fruit. A bit much for the food, but nice. On next day had a glass as an apertif, and it showed even better- some forest floor over a perfumed body of red fruit and violets, a bit like a light Chambolle. B++



Dinner on Friday was veal with lemon, tomatoes,and olives. Again I went to the cellar to get one thing (an Italian white) and came up with another - the 2001 Alzinger Loimer Weingarten Grüner Veltliner Smaragd. Grapefruit and river stones, a steely/minerally wine with a lot of character, but a bit tight. We have a nice glass each, but most of the bottle is left, and I decide to carry as a bonus pour to a tasting group that night (separate notes). So about 4 hours later this is rechecked. I'm shocked. No normal oxidative notes, but the fruit is totally gone just leaving behind a bitter acidic shell. I liked this wine, and expected it to blossom with some air. But a B+ wine became a C+ wine on this occasion.



Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.



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Caution.

Fred Loimer is a winegrower in Langenlois (look out for his superb Seeberg Riesling 2004).

Loiben, however, is the Village Alzinger lives, and Loibner (sic!) Weingärten means "Loiben vineyards".

M.

Yikes! The danger of a slight familiarity with a country's wines- I'm not even in right region - that would make one Kamptal and one Wachau? Can't edit here, but hopefully everyone sees your response. Thanks!

["Loimer" vs. "Loibner"]

Right.

No "supersede" function with your newsreader?

No problem!

M.

It isn't quite fair, is it? And I would say that you have a far greater familiarity than most, Dale!

Michael, Many news servers no longer honor either supercedes or cancels because of widespread abuse. These days, you're probably better off just replying to your own message with the correction should you need to correct yourself.

Mark Lipton

super_s_edes

Really? Never heard of anything like that. My newsreader doesn't offer the possibility to supersede or cancel anything else than my own postings.

Hmmm. I do it quite frequently (although rarely in this group) without any problem.

M.

Salut/Hi Michael Pronay,

le/on Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:11:19 +0200, tu disais/you said:-

According to my spell checker both spellings are correct - to my amazement. I was convinced the correct spelling is supercede. Given that both are permissable, I nevertheless tend towards Mark's spelling as the root verb is "cede" from the Latin verb cedere - to give up.

Alas, Ian, your spell checker made the same mistake that I did. Supersede is indeed the one and only correct spelling (FWIW, from the Latin super + sedere, to "sit above", a different etymology). The apparent resemblance to intercede [from L. cedere, meaning in this instance to pass] is misleading in this case.

Mark Lipton

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