Wine pairing for smoked fish?

Off-dry is a pretty broad term, I use it for everything from a little noticable RS (usually would say "just off-dry") to plenty of sugar but well short of dessert wines (drier Auslese).

I'll quibble a little with Mark. I think of kabinetts as a typically showing a bit of residual sugar. I don't know of many Kabinetts that weren't labeled trocken or maybe feinherb that I didn't detect sugar, and unless marked halbtrocken you usually don't need to go looking for it. I think of demi-sec as a bit sweeter, most demi-sec Loires remind me more of Spatlese levels of sweetness.

Of course, amount of sugar is just one factor. Lower acidities of course make sugar more apparent. It's worth noting that a Pfalz or Nahe Kabinett is likely to be sweeter than a Mosel one. But in your case (the Pauly Bergweiler ) the issue is the very ripe vintage, most "Kabinetts" are actually Spatlese (or even Auslese) in Kabinett clothing.

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DaleW
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Are you quibbling with me? If so, I must have misspoken, as I agree with what you've just written.

Agreed, David...er...Dale ;-)

Mark Lipton

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Mark Lipton
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Anders Tørneskog

I've tried various high acidity chenins with smoked salmon, I can say that the match was disastrous, unveiling a taste I can only describe as "tinned sardine."

I'd go with a dry riesling, I guess. Or beer.

One of my favorite feasts, sadly unavailable here in France (that I know of). A decent bagel even is hard to come by.

-E

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Emery Davis

Feel fortunate that you do not live in Texas if you crave a decent bagel. Anything that requires mastication appears to be forbidden fruit down here. The same applies to bread, howsoever elaborate the designated type which is slapped on. I anxiously await the return of cooler weather when I can not feel too guilty about firing up my oven and begin baking my own bagels and bread once more. :-)

Godzilla

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Godzilla

I get bagels shipped to Virginia every two months from H and H Bagels in Brooklyn freeze them and unthaw and toast, couldn't be better.

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Lawrence Leichtman

Envoyer la nourriture en France serait comme envoyer des charbons à Newcastle !

Godzilla

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Godzilla

Hi Jon,

I am rather fond of the St. Urbans-Hof Okfener Bockstein Kabinett (from the Mosel-Saar-Ruwer) region. Pick up a bottle of that if you can and let me (us) know how it compares to the Dr. Pauly.

One of these days I am going to have to go to a comparative tasting of Rieslings from the various regions in Germany to learn the differences...

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Dave Devine

Since none of the wines that were recommended on the NG were available to me in PA, I purchased a 2006 Dr. Konstantine Frank semi-dry Riesling, a NY state vineyard, on the recommendation of the manager of my local LCB store. I had a few sips before we started to eat and really enjoyed it. Just a hint of sweetness, more than enough acid and a very nice honeysuckle nose. Some type of indistinct melon on the tongue.

Not so great a pairing with the fish, however. I think the problem is there are many different flavors that encompass this meal. The wine was OK with some (lox, smoked salmon, chub, black olives) and really clashed with others (whitefish salad, herring, keugel, sable). I ate the parts of the meal that went well while I enjoyed the wine and switched to coffee for the rest of the meal. Worked for me. I noticed that everyone else let it rest after a few sips.

Well, we gave it our best shot and I really appreciate everyone's input. It seems I learn something new every day from this group and that makes me very happy.

Thanks, Jon

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Zeppo

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