Wine that got you into wine?

Hi from Kinko's by Disney Woild---I vas in da usd chariot mit mine Uncle Plinius Pinkus, ven I hat a Eureka moment, I vas having some hummus & goat at da house of anudder uncle, Boytrides ben Reuban Earl, when he poured me a late harvest falernum he was sellin at his cafe, Ben's Boite. Da chariot bizness vas slow so I esked how can I sell this stuff and he gave me one his calling rocks to take da wine brokker, Fastis Lapidias who sign me up & sent me to East Gaul. sellin mavrodaphne and whey. Dats how I started...............

Reply to
Joe "Beppe"Rosenberg
Loading thread data ...

Salut/Hi Ed Jay,

le/on Wed, 22 Feb 2006 10:33:02 -0800, tu disais/you said:-

A great wine, but my astonishment was reserved for the Moutton of the same year.;-)

ATB Ian

Reply to
Ian Hoare

Ian Hoare scribed:

I can't remember drinking the '59 Moutton. What I do remember is falling in love with the Lafite and buying it every time I was able to. And, I remember paying the outrageous price of...$71/btl.

Reply to
Ed Jay

"Ed Jay" skrev i melding news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

71$? USD? That must have been a late price (in the late 70'ies?) I have a copy of a Norwegian list from 1965, unfortunately without the Lafite, but including such items as Ch. d'Yquem 1960 at 7USD and Ch. Rieussec 1959 at 3.75USD. Alcohol was, and is, heavily taxed in Norway, so deduct about 30% to get international prices...

Of course, price differentials between ordinary and great wine were far less in older days. I've also a list from 1927 showing unspecified St.Emilion NV at 0.45USD and Ch.Latour 1916 at 1.45USD... The Petrus 1916 was 0.95USD. That says something about real value differentials - there's simply no justification in paying 100times more for a grand wine than for an ordinary one, other than snob value. Anders

Reply to
Anders Tørneskog

Anders wrote on Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:56:16 +0100:

AT> "Ed Jay" skrev i melding AT> news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com... ??>> Ian Hoare scribed: ??>>

??>> I can't remember drinking the '59 Moutton. What I do ??>> remember is falling in love with the Lafite and buying it ??>> every time I was able to. And, I remember paying the ??>> outrageous price of...$71/btl. -- AT> 71$? USD? That must have been a late price (in the late AT> 70'ies?) I have a copy of a Norwegian list from 1965, AT> unfortunately without the Lafite, but including such items AT> as Ch. d'Yquem 1960 at 7USD and Ch. Rieussec 1959 at AT> 3.75USD. Alcohol was, and is, heavily taxed in Norway, so AT> deduct about 30% to get international prices...

The price ratio for fine to acceptable wine is very interesting. However, I thought it might be interesting to quote a few US CPI figures: ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/special.requests/cpi/cpiai.txt

1913: 1.00, 1920: 2.02, 1930: 1.69, 1940: 1.41, 1950: 2.43, 1960: 2.99

1970: 3.92, 1980: 8.32, 1990: 13.20, 2000: 17.39, 2005: 19.88.

On a basis of the 1965 CPI (3.18), the 1960 Chateau d'Yquem would be 43.76 in present USD: quite a bargain if you accept the stratospheric prices that people will pay!

James Silverton Potomac, Maryland.

Reply to
James Silverton

Clos Du Val CS 1996 Travaglini Gattinara Beringer Knights Valley CS 1996 Chateau Margaux 1994

I got into wine in the mid 90s, these were among the 1st quality wines I had and they left a lasting impression on me, especially the Bordeaux, which I still recall smelled like a basket of flowers when I put the glass to my nose.

Reply to
beernuts

DrinksForum website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.