Which Burgundy?

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Hi AllI am organising a tasting in a few weeks titled "A world of Pinot Noir"I have assembled 2 Oz Pinots, 1 from the Yarra Valley & 1 from theMornington Peninsula, a Kiwi Pinot & 1 from Oregon. I am very happywith all these wines but as the glaring hole in my wine knowledge isEurope, I am struggling to choose a good Burgundy. I am really aftersomething typical of the region, that a Francophile would identify asBurgundian on first sniff, something that will help demonstrate to thetasters the differences between New & Old World Pinots (the tasting ispaid for and largely for educational purposes, mostly intermediateswith a couple of know it alls thrown in).  I've had a couple of winesrecommended to me from a merchant (who has been reasonably helpful inthe past and is helping to organise a guest speaker)and I'd like toknow if anybody has tasted either these particular wines or othervintages. Also any recommendations for wines that you think might beavailable here in Oz would also be great. My budget for the event isaround $80 - $90 Oz.The recommended wines are -Clavelier Vosne Romanée "Hautes Maizières" 2002. $79.90Clavelier Vosne Romanée "La Combe Brûlée" 2002.  $86.90Jean Grivot Vosne Romanée "Les Bossières" 2001. $86.90Jean Grivot Nuits St. Georges "Les Lavières" 2001. $71.90The other wines I am using are -2003 Coldstream Hills Pinot Noir - Yarra Valley $202001 Winbirra Vineyards Pinot Noir - Mornington Peninsula $252001 Argyle Reserve Pinot Noir - Willamette Valley, Oregon USA $502002 Ata Rangi Pinot Noir - Martinborough, New Zealand $70I will post notes after the tasting. Thanks in advanceCheers Andrew

ksternberg1 · Accepted Answer

The  Jean Grivot Nuits St. Georges "Les Lavières" 2001 or his LesBossières should work very nicely.

Ian Hoare · Answer

Salut/Hi      le/on 1 Feb 2005 19:41:03 -0800, tu disais/you said:-You took the words out of my mouth.

Ian Hayward · Answer

Here's one of my favourite mid-price offerings:

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I am not an habitual PN drinker, but this is one of the nicest non-Kiwis I've tried. I have no idea about availability in Oz, though.

Regards,

Ian

The recommended wines are - Clavelier Vosne Romanée "Hautes Maizières" 2002. $79.90 Clavelier Vosne Romanée "La Combe Brûlée" 2002. $86.90 Jean Grivot Vosne Romanée "Les Bossières" 2001. $86.90 Jean Grivot Nuits St. Georges "Les Lavières" 2001. $71.90

The other wines I am using are -

2003 Coldstream Hills Pinot Noir - Yarra Valley $20 2001 Winbirra Vineyards Pinot Noir - Mornington Peninsula $25 2001 Argyle Reserve Pinot Noir - Willamette Valley, Oregon USA $50 2002 Ata Rangi Pinot Noir - Martinborough, New Zealand $70 I will post notes after the tasting. Thanks in advance Cheers Andrew

Anders TÃ¸rneskog · Answer

"Ian Hayward"  skrev i melding news:ILaMd.215$   You say mid-priced, at 217UKP a bottle?, 400USD?Anders

Ian Hayward · Answer

That's a case of 12.  I suppose everyone has their own idea of whatconstitutes "mid-priced", but with the onerous tax burden here in UK I wouldreckon £15 to £30/bottle to be a reasonable mid-range for Burgundy.

DaleW · Answer

Jean Grivot and Bruno Clavelier are both quality producers. I haven'ttasted any of these 4 bottlings. Personally, I'd go for one of theClaveliers. My reasoning would be that 2002s all seem to be quite openat moment, and some (though not all) 2001s have really shut down. Plus,I personally feel that Vosne drinks better young than NSG. Just myopinion.

Anders TÃ¸rneskog · Answer

"Ian Hayward" skrev i melding news:%2bMd.222$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...

It didn't actually say the price was for quantities of 12.. You could buy

1, 2 or more - which of course was cases. With the even more onerous tax burdens in Scandinavia, I think mid range should be defined as 25-50£... :-( Reasonable? Hardly. Anders

Art Stratemeyer · Answer

Hi Andrew,I also would vote for the one above.However, if you have access to any producers from the  Bonnes Maresregion, IMHO that would provide a bit closer "match" for comparison.While I've not had any of the wines you've listed below except for theArgyle.  I feel that often the new world pinots have a bit moreooomphf than their burgundy counter parts.  That's why I mentioned theBonnes Mares region where the pinots tend to be a bit fatterEither way .. would really be interested in what your notes are afterthe tastingArtArt Stratemeyer============================ Community Celebration the Joy of Wine,Gardening and the ArtsCellar! Wine Software

Hunt · Answer

I, also, did not pick up on the "case" quantity price and was thinking that we were now on to DRC's as "mid-priced." In the US good, to near great, Burgs can be had in the US$50-75 range, and one can also score domestic (to the US) PNs with good pedigree for that same price. I hate to think about it, but in Europe, most of our PNs are probably up towards the better Burgs, if available at all. Even AZ/US does get many of the domestic ones and the pricing is not too much to handle. While we have other burdens, i.e. inter-state shipping laws, etc. we do get a very good sampling of wines, especially PNs.

Hunt

Andrew Goldfinch · Answer

Thanks all, I have decided to go with the Jean Grivot "Les Lavières" .I will post the notes after the tasting on 14 Feb. Cheers Andrew

uraniumcommittee · Answer

Why? Why don't you cook FOOD and DRINK them?Tasting? Don't waste your time....

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