google group for grape growing

Wow, Bob. Relax. I'm sorry I pissed you off; it was not my intention. The Cox reference, if I remember correctly, is when he is discussing his personal experience with a master wine grape grower who refused him cuttings of a specific clone until he had properly dug his trenches three feet deep and wide and let it sit fallow over the winter. This master grower referred to the topsoil numbers. It was a best case scenerio thing and I didn't mean to suggest it was reality for most of us. I think it is somwhere in the beginning when Cox is talking about his own vineyard.

I think you missed the original posters first couple of posts because my advice was directed only at him/her. He/She is in San Diego county, as am I, and the person I refered him/her to is Lum Eisenberg who is also in San Diego county and one of the most knowledgeable people on this newsgroup and knows San DIego viticulture better than most. It is a valid referral.

However, I have opinions and a ton of horticultural knowledge and I thought I would give my advice to this fellow grower who appeared to need direction in the area of grape growing in San Diego County. I just planted my first grapes last month and he is expecting his first grapes shortly. I wanted to make sure he had accurate information before he put in the vines because he was planting upwards of 50 vines. It would be ashame to make mistakes right off the bat. Hence the referal to Cox's book and to Lum. I appologize for all the stress.

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Excuse me for living Bob. Sorry to have stirred you up. Funny though, seems like you just recently suggested visiting local vineyards to find out about their spraying programs. Guess it's OK if you make the suggestion.

"Where did your wife get her KC "master" gardeners license??? In a gumball machine?" Well Bob, here in Kansas people take courses from the County Extension Agent to become Master Gardeners. Is it different where you live?

Bill Frazier Olathe, Kansas

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William Frazier

.....Yaawwnn......

Steve Noobie Oregon

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spud

Now I don't know anything about raising grapes, and I am just now learning modern methods of home winemaking, but I am an old boy from rural Alabama so I know a little about Extension Agents (which I assume your "county farm adviser" is.) Back home, if Dr. Moody had tried to ignore the subsistence farmers to concentrate exclusively on the cucumber farms and the cotton growers, we'd have been up in arms (that still has a literal meaning when appropriate circumstances arise.) To channel my Uncle Brownie for a moment "Them bid-ness farms ain't paying what t' keep th' 'stension man in eggs."

Of course, we always gave Dr. Moody a little something for his time to come all the way out to us, usually a quart of sorghum. Be sure if you ever finnagle the agent out, give him a jug of wine, or some jam, or some biscuits and gravy. Dr. Moody was always singing a song when he came up our road, even knowing it would be two hours of trooping through animal muck and worse.

Of course, he always said it was the artesian well that made him look forward seeing us.

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Randall MacInnes

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